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With the myriad of votes affecting gays this past week Griff and the cubs talk about gay marriage in Maine, Washington and New York and the anti-discrimination law now in place in Kalamazoo, MI! – Also don’t forget to nominate us for the Best of Bears 2009

Hosts: Jeff, Griff, Tim, JJ

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Quote of the week: Thlayli: Well, I don’t know if this means anything, but when you said you had one foot in the grave, all I could think of was you fucking some young gravedigger, not being old.

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Re: Wait, #ShameOnMaine is the new hash tag?

Jonathan
While it sucks for Maine, it’s not the end…and unlike most other states it wasn’t a constitutional amendment. They simply repealed a law passed by the legislature. So, it will be easier to try again.

In other news, there are good things happening around the country, too – WA state had a great victory
http://bit.ly/39G9qk

Adiv
Something is seriously wrong with the legislative mechanism if the civil rights of any sector of society can be restricted or denied by popular vote.

A nationwide campaign to strip the Church of its tax exempt status needs to be initiated along with filing civil rights lawsuits against it in every state of the union. It is clearly in violation of … the constitution for this cult to advocate against the civil rights and liberties of LGBT citizens. It needs to be put out of society’s misery once and for all.

Re: RT: @WashingtonBlade: Our office debate this morning: Is it time to set aside marriage and make the more pragmatic push for civil unions?

Don
I say no. To me Civil Unions represents a contract between two people. It’s almost opting for the lesser than status because we don’t want to offend “them.” (narrow minded str8 right wing consevatives).

To me marriage represents a social and spirtual bond between two people. The problem is their are still misconceptions within society that Gay … People are unable to make those connections because our culture is still deemed as alternative and in some eyes a deviance. What our detractors tend to focus is on the typical gay sterotypes instead of openning their eyes and realizing that we can form long lasting bonds.

Those bonds not only have to be legalize recongized, but by right accepted as not less than str8 society, but equal than.

For all those detractors who attack us for wanting Gay Marriage forget about their own short comings of question what modern marriage mean. They cling to outdated models of the nuclear family ( a shame), fear of children going up confused ( a myth), that we already have our rights protected (another myth) and that we are unable to have lasting relationships (another bogus lie..for I know couples in Canada and US who been together for almost 20yrs).

This is why I always detested when Gay and Lesbians would refer to their boyfriends/girlfriends/spouses as “partner.” We’ve proven time and time again our relationships are stronger than that. I say fight all the way and don’t give up. We did it here in Canada and the sky hasn’t fallen .

*hugs* that’s my Tim Hortons Moment 🙂

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Discussion of the news.
Is boycotting States that don’t support marriage equality effective?

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Darnell via COL mail –

I really enjoy your podcast. Yet what I think makes me so crazy just hit me. I think Giff may have an issue with the “spectrum of gay”. What I mean by that is we as gay people come in all shapes, colors, sizes, political, economic, social ways of life. Yet, we are all gay and we need to support each other. There is a great movie called Flawless (1999) with Robert De Niro, in there there is a line where Phillip Seymour Hoffman’s character Rusty Zimmerman says when talking to a group of gay republican, “You’re ashamed of us, but were not ashamed of you. As long as you go down on your Banana Republican knees and suck dick, you’re my sisters, and I love you. And fuck off!”

This is how I feel. I may not agree at times with the means of the gay movement but I think we all can agree on the ends which I believe is equality for all gays in America.

Great job Jeff. Love the passion. Giff keep it coming, really respect your thoughts and opinions on things bro.

Motorbear via comments –

I used to work in an office environment. I am an openly gay male. I had a picture of my partner at the time and myself on my desk. One day I was asked to remove it because it offended some people or so I was told. I told them only on the condition that everyone else removes the pictures of their loved ones. After all, fair is fair. I was fired. I do not live in a right to work state. The union would not support me. Your idea for a “silent movement” for lack of a better term is just that. Your idea and I respect that. However it won’t always work. Nothing ever does. I was a good worker. I busted my ass everyday and was respected by colleagues or so I thought. Now tell me. What should I do? I have already talked to the labor board and was denied a hearing.

Fuzzbear via comments –

Im here at work listening … OMG i almost spit my coffee out..

Griff : we need to stop being hostile.
Jeff : WERE NOT BEING HOSTILE!!!!

I swear i heard a growl when he said that LOL too funny.

Thanks Greg/Chaz, Renee, BlackSwan, Thlayli

News

Maine – About time to vote. Governor Baldacci ““I think Maine people have recognized … that we are all unique people, we are all different,” he said. “But we are all under the same Constitution and we all want to make sure there is equal protection for all citizens.””
Hate crimes now cover LGBT
Gay marriage in NY?

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