Amazing Weekends

COL News

• Recent anti-gay violence shakes Washington D.C.
• Stay to keep Prop 8 alive denied! In effect 8/18, 1700 PDT Proponents do not adequately explain the basis for their belief that marriages performed absent a stay would suffer from a “cloud of uncertainty.”
• Proponents’ intervention in the district court does not provide them with standing to appeal.
• “The evidence presented at trial does not support proponents’ position on domestic partnerships; instead, the evidence showed that domestic partnership is an inadequate and discriminatory substitute for marriage.”
• Proponents claim that plaintiffs’ desire to marry is not “urgent,” because they chose not to marry in 2008. Whether plaintiffs choose to exercise their right to marry now is a matter that plaintiffs, and plaintiffs alone, have the right to decide.
• Proponents also point to the public interest as reflected in the votes of “the people of California” who do not want same-sex couples to marry, explaining that “[t]here is no basis for this Court to second-guess the people of California’s considered judgment of the public interest.” The Governor states that “[a]llowing the Court’s judgment to take effect serves the public interest” in “[u]pholding the rights and liberties guaranteed by the federal Constitution” and in “eradicating unlawful discrimination.”
• The evidence presented at trial and the position of the representatives of the State of California show that an injunction against enforcement of Proposition 8 is in the public’s interest. Accordingly, the court concludes that the public interest counsels against entry of the stay proponents seek.

Topics:

• How long will it take for equality and are we willing to wait?
• Mobile bear sites. Is Scruff really needed?
• NPH is having twins!

So, get this: David and I are expecting twins this fall. We're super excited/nervous/thrilled. Hoping the press can respect our privacy...

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Neil Patrick Harris

WTP:

• Kids are back in school already! – Griff

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• Hackers – Jeff

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• The Drowsy Chaperone at Zach Scott -Tim
• Breakthrough with Tony Robbins – Griff

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Amazing Weekends

• Griff catches up from vacation.

COL News

• JUDGE OVERTURNS PROP 8 IN HISTORIC RULING
• Did Judge Make Right Call In Gay Marriage Case?
• A Brilliant Ruling: Judge Walker’s decision to overturn Prop 8 is factual, well-reasoned, and powerful.
• How the GOP Is Saving Gay Marriage – ChiDiver
• Target apologizes for donation, boycotts abound.
  HRC’s Open Letter to Target and Best Buy
  Losing site of the forest; being too concerned with the trees – Griff’s take on the Target/BB situation.

Feedback:

• Long letter from FurryCajunCub
• I am 32, 5’10”, 150lb and hairy. I guess I would be considered and otter or a wolf or a cub depending on the term that people feel fits. I am not by any means a bear, but I identify with the premise of the bear community and I certainly love a hot bear…I guess you can call me a chaser.
• I have to say, after all these years in the bear community, I watched it transform from a very inclusive group that would accept just about anyone, to a more exclusive group that has its ideal look.
• Discusses experiences at bear runs
• In my opinion the issue is most gay men are not willing to strike up a conversation with someone they do not necessarily find sexually attractive. This issue is worse online than in person since it is considerably easier for someone to close a window or click the delete message button than to actually shun someone to their face.
• I tend to say hi to everyone. Again, try being a guy that does not fit the typical bear mold and see what kind of response you receive. You guys are a prime example of this, not that I love you any less because of it; I have tried chatting with Jeff, John-John (when he was on the show), and thegriff with little to no success….I am simply making an observation.
• Back before there were websites and people would talk to someone without ever knowing what they looked like, this was not an issue. I remember good old BBC and IRC groups where people would just talk to one another to form friendships.
• The bear community over the 13 years I have considered myself a member, has become allot more exclusive and has gained the twink mentality of shunning people. I think it is time we took a step back and remembered our roots.
• Email From Darnell

Hey Cubs Out Loud,

I have a topic for you guys and would love to hear your opinions on this…Moobs. Now if you don’t know what this is it slang for man boobs. Now as a stocky man myself I am a bit “heavy chested” so I have first hand experience with moobs. I have met guys who love to have their moobs played with and other who don’t. So here is my question, does a guy’s moobs equal a deal breaker or are you willing to hook up with a guy with moobs. Also if you have moobs do you enjoy having them played with? Just Curious….

Ok have a great show.

WTP:

• Being w/out A/C for a week – Griff
• Anti-Karen Handel ads in Atl – Griff

Picks:

• Shopska Salata – Tim
• Clear iSpot – Griff
• Pocket Informant HD (iTunes Link) for iPad – Griff
• Write-up from Biggercity – Griff
• Looking for another podcast to keep you company? BiggerCity is proud to recommend the Cubs Out Loud podcast! Your hosts Jeffery, TimCub, and Griff provide an entertaining look at the bear world, and all the topics that link into being larger, hairier, and into other men. The now long-running podcast is hitting its 125th episode, and is a great listen, not just due to the surprisingly high production values. The fact is that Jeff, Tim, and Griff are personable, funny, and downright likeable. Their discussions will surprise you, too, with tangents diving into politics, bear runs, relationships, and everything else that affects us. Check out the link above for their site, subscribe to their RSS feed, or on iTunes!
• Looney Tunes are BACK! Go See Cats And Dogs to see the new ‘toon, now in 3d! – Jeff

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• Voicemail played during POCOL
• From the Email bag
  • Hey Cubs,

    This is Lawdogg 28. I was on ustream tonight listening to the show. It was very cool to see and hear all the behind the scenes work that goes into your podcast.

    Now I don’t know if you remember me, but I sent an email response into the show awhile back. It was during the infamously heated podcast between Griff and Jeff.  I am the DC attorney that wrote the ridiculously long email message in response to the show with the Fearless reference. Well the next show following, Griff you made an invitation to have me as a legal guest and/or small legal segment sometime in the future. Well if the offer still stands I would love to help out the show anyway I can.

    So just let me know.

    Anyway keep up the great work guys.

    Also I wanted to bring up this point. In the straight world do they differentiate between “hook-up” sites and “dating” sites. Most of my straight friends, ages 27-35,  go on dating sites to hook up and they go on hook up sites to hook up. I think we as gay men are conditioned to engage in courtship rituals differently then straight people for many reasons one of which is due to the fact many gay men are closeted. Thus as a result the lines of dating and hooking up are blurred because of the mere fact when you are in the closet you are not being true to yourself and therefore lack the capacity to be in healthy relationship.  That is why for me when I was younger my only “gay” outlet for me was gay sex. Nothing else in my world as a young adult was gay, no gay friends, no gay role modles, nothing except for gay sex. So what do you think.

    PS-  Love the weight lose stuff. I know that we as bears take pride in our size but alternatively there are health issues we must be cognizant of. Griff my only advice to you is that if you want to keep the weight you are losing off you MUST workout. That means, lift weights, run, bike, walk,dance, yoga et al as long as you do some movement. I do power yoga three times a week and lift weight at least once a week. Also walk 1.6 miles a day to the DC metro.

    PSS- A possible topic could be “racisim in the bear community”. What you said tonight about JJ being dicked around, and not in the fun way, by the Bear411 webmaster is fucking sad and that sort of shit pisses me off.

    Peace.

    Darnell

News:

• Gay Mayor in as candidate for Kennedy seat
• Alexander McQueen commits suicide

Topics:

• Gay Valentine’s Day cards
• Google Buzz – yet another social network
• John Mayer uses the other “F” word. – Do we give a “F”?
• Porn addcition – It’s real!
• Judge in Prop 8 trial is gay!
• The loss of community or has it moved online?

WTP:

• Baconnaise – Griff

[Jeff]Picks:

• 1967 Report on Homosexuality
• Semi-homemade turkey burgers. – Griff
• Bearapalooza – Griff

• Cubby House’s This American Life-ish shows – Jeff
• The Fly 1958 edition – Jeff

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With the rampant Anti-Gay Marriage news, the Cubs and Griff discuss happenings from around the country, napkin rings and low cal treats.  Be sure to join us live January 24th for our 100th episode!

COL News

• DC Judge rules against gay marriage referendum.
• NJ Senate defeats gay marriage bill.
• Rough sex leads to conviction
• No broadcast of Prop 8 trial – discuss.

Topics:

• We have Brokeback Mountain, what else do we want?!
• It’s our 100th show next week!
• Griff’s on a Diet, you can help.

WTP:

• Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh – Griff
• COL Pilot released exactly 2 years ago today – Thursday, January 17th, 2008

]Picks:

• Outback Steakhouse Nutrition Calculator – Griff
• Robertson: Hate and Haiti – Griff
• Austin Symphony Orchestra – Tim
• Skinny Cow – JJ

Visit msnbc.com for Breaking News, World News, and News about the Economy

Feedback:

• Voicemail from Auston

Topics:

• Discussion of Auston’s question
• Griff rebuts cubs statements about “Transgendered Child Kicked Out of Catholic School”
• What bear events should Griff attend? A query to the listeners.
• NEWS: CA upholds prop 8 (nice segway into main topic)
• The economics of favoring gay marriage.
• Is the economy having a different effect on queers?

WTP:

• “Harvey Milk” report halted by San Diego school – Griff
• Pre-Emptive WTF – Rockstar Announces GTA: The Ballad of Gay Tony – JJ
• Gayest Video Game – JJ via Fuzzles

Borderline:

• McGang Bang – Griff
• Also – Griff

Picks:

• Taco Flavored Doritos – Griff
• Windows 7 RC1 – Griff
• We need a gay version of MLK – Tim

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