Cubs Out Loud » Gay News http://cubsoutloud.com The Bear Podcast of Indeterminate Length Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:25:25 +0000 en hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 COL Media podcast@cubsoutloud.com (Cubs Out Loud) podcast@cubsoutloud.com (Cubs Out Loud) 1440 http://cubsoutloud.com/wp-content/uploads/images/cubsoutloud.jpg Cubs Out Loud http://cubsoutloud.com 144 144 The Bear Podcast of Indeterminate Length Cubs Out Loud Cubs Out Loud podcast@cubsoutloud.com no yes COL131: You Want To See The Naughty Bits! http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/09/12/col131-you-want-to-see-the-naughty-bits/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/09/12/col131-you-want-to-see-the-naughty-bits/#comments Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:31:59 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=961 Griff and Jeff welcome JJ back as the hot substitute podcaster to discuss a bevy of listener feedback and how to find your bear. All that and a handful of news from around the gay community.

Hosts: Griff, Jeff and JJ

Amazing Weekends

COL News

Feedback:

  • Email from Phil – Re: Bear411

Hey Jeff, Timcub and Griff

Just thought I’d tell you a story that really made me consider the discussions you’ve had in the recent and not-so-recent past about Bear411 and cliqueishness in the bear community. Last night, I submitted a profile to Bear411. I followed all the requirements, including providing a face pic. This morning, I received an email from the webmaster notifying me that my submitted profile could not be approved. There was absolutely no explanation provided. The website suggested I post my profile at MenOnline.com, presumably one of Bear411′s sister sites.

I have read extensively about the whole fracas over Bear411 being especially picky and/or arbitrary as to who they consider worthy of being on the site. While I do not know the ultimate reason for the rejection, I can’t help but wonder if it’s something they found personally unattractive about me. If I must label myself, I consider myself to be a chub, standing at 5’9″ and weighing 265. However, I do not grow substantial facial hair patterns and usually go smooth shaven. Call it genetics or God or whatever, I’m just not the hairiest guy. My submitted facepic reflects this, and I wonder if they took one look at it and said “NOT A BEAR” before rejecting my profile.

I’ve been listening to COL long enough to remember the infamous verbal back-and-forth between John John and Griff over the site. Most of the time, I can understand each side of the argument…but right about now, I’m sympathizing with John John, if only because I now know what it is like to feel rejected. (I know, you can get out the violins now… Ha!)

Is all this Bear411 drama proof that some bears are just cliqueish and not very kind about it? I’ve noticed even that when going to JJ’s, my local bear bar in St. Louis, I feel less and less welcome lately because I’m merely husky without the hairy. Are chubs are the new twink in the bear communty? I mean no harm to our twink brothers…but I’ve seen a lot of dismissive language sent their way…and I’m even guilty of it in the past.

I get it. People like what they like, but what the P-FUCK? Does the webmaster of Bear411 not consider that there are chub-admirers out there? Who knows, I might have become a paid member. That’s their monetary loss, I guess.

Your thoughts? Keep up the great work, guys!

Phil

St. Louis, MO

  • Email from Thlayli – Straight Guys at the Bear Bar

First off, the last show was great; very much enjoyed it.

Secondly, sorry the feedback is so late, and so short.

Third: Here’s a verbatim quote from Griff:

“If you are a bartender at a gay establishment, or a barback, or work in any capacity there, I kinda think that you are opening yourself up to be hit on, touched, fondled and what-not, and I think that’s okay; that’s sort of acceptable in gay bars especially.”

Holy SHIT.

Um, no. That is not okay. It’s not acceptable for anyone to be fondled – or “what-not” just because they happen to working at a bar. Any bar. Including gay bars. While it’s true that there’s a certain amount of being hit-on that anyone dealing with the public might have to deal with, there’s a fucking line. No touching unless it’s consented to. Period.

Regarding the topics:

Should gay bars hire straight employees?

Sure, why not? Bar employees are not there to fuck the patrons. Sexuality is irrelevant. If the employee doesn’t realize that he’d applied for a job at a gay bar, he/she should be fired on grounds of stupidity.

Should gay bars host bachelorette parties?

No. As there is no legal way around this, (other than 100% private clubs, and those laws may vary from state to state, I don’t know), your weapon is shame. Bachelorettes should show a little fucking sensitivity in this regard – I think it actually IS a little insensitive to use gay clubs as a safe haven from the straight men. If I’m out at a bar, I’d rather enjoy myself, rather than being looked on as an exhibit in a zoo by all the straight folks. Sadly, this is what seems to happen when bachelorette parties arrive. If someone in the party approaches me, the following three things will happen: 1) I’ll be asked to tell my coming out story, 2) I’ll be asked to “prove” that I’m gay, and 3) I’ll be told that it’s a waste for me to be gay.

Anyone phoning in to arrange a bachelorette party at a gay bar should be treated like dirt. Like someone who thinks blackface is funny.

Yarg. As usual, my feedback wants to be an essay. Going to sign off now.

Hugs to all,

Chris (Thlayli)

  • Email from Dave – Name Change and Scruff

Hi Boys,

I really enjoyed your last podcast. Great job and I have been listening for a couple of years. I live in MA and I am engaged to be married. We talked about the whole name change thing when we first became engaged last spring. We decided to keep our own names at that time and I had no problem with that. We both have long last names so the combined names would be around 16 letters long.

As it turns out my soon to be husband told me one night about a month ago that he wanted to take my last name. His decision to take my last name made me very happy, I not sure why but it did.

I also use Scruff. I also listen to Bear Podcast and they had one of the guys who were responsible for Scruff on there podcast. At the time there was just 2 guys doing all of it and they both had full time jobs too. You can listen to the pod cast at http://bearpodcast.com/show/?p=1303. Jeff give them a break, Scruff is much better than Grindr and I see the type of men I like.

Big Bear Hugs,

Dave

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Topics:

  • Finding “your” bear.

WTP:

  • Why is Blockbuster still around? “Blockbuster has lost a total of $1.1 billion since the beginning of 2008…” – Griff
  • Foreskin Man – Griff
  • Sharpie Pencil – Griff
  • The new Digg – JJ

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/09/12/col131-you-want-to-see-the-naughty-bits/feed/ 1 0:00:01 Griff and Jeff welcome JJ back as the hot substitute podcaster to discuss a bevy of listener feedback and how to find your bear. All that and a handful of news from around the gay community. Hosts: Griff, Jeff and JJ Amazing Weekends COL News Jud[...] Griff and Jeff welcome JJ back as the hot substitute podcaster to discuss a bevy of listener feedback and how to find your bear. All that and a handful of news from around the gay community. Hosts: Griff, Jeff and JJ Amazing Weekends COL News Judge: Military’s ban on gays is unconstitutional Cookie in town next week BearCubHouse launches Defendants found not guilty in Atlanta Eagle bar raid case Citizen’s Review board finds cops guilty of false imprisonment in AEBR Inagural Gay Rights March in Savannah Draws 500 Feedback: Email from Phil – Re: Bear411 Hey Jeff, Timcub and Griff Just thought I’d tell you a story that really made me consider the discussions you’ve had in the recent and not-so-recent past about Bear411 and cliqueishness in the bear community. Last night, I submitted a profile to Bear411. I followed all the requirements, including providing a face pic. This morning, I received an email from the webmaster notifying me that my submitted profile could not be approved. There was absolutely no explanation provided. The website suggested I post my profile at MenOnline.com, presumably one of Bear411′s sister sites. I have read extensively about the whole fracas over Bear411 being especially picky and/or arbitrary as to who they consider worthy of being on the site. While I do not know the ultimate reason for the rejection, I can’t help but wonder if it’s something they found personally unattractive about me. If I must label myself, I consider myself to be a chub, standing at 5’9″ and weighing 265. However, I do not grow substantial facial hair patterns and usually go smooth shaven. Call it genetics or God or whatever, I’m just not the hairiest guy. My submitted facepic reflects this, and I wonder if they took one look at it and said “NOT A BEAR” before rejecting my profile. I’ve been listening to COL long enough to remember the infamous verbal back-and-forth between John John and Griff over the site. Most of the time, I can understand each side of the argument…but right about now, I’m sympathizing with John John, if only because I now know what it is like to feel rejected. (I know, you can get out the violins now… Ha!) Is all this Bear411 drama proof that some bears are just cliqueish and not very kind about it? I’ve noticed even that when going to JJ’s, my local bear bar in St. Louis, I feel less and less welcome lately because I’m merely husky without the hairy. Are chubs are the new twink in the bear communty? I mean no harm to our twink brothers…but I’ve seen a lot of dismissive language sent their way…and I’m even guilty of it in the past. I get it. People like what they like, but what the P-FUCK? Does the webmaster of Bear411 not consider that there are chub-admirers out there? Who knows, I might have become a paid member. That’s their monetary loss, I guess. Your thoughts? Keep up the great work, guys! Phil St. Louis, MO Email from Thlayli – Straight Guys at the Bear Bar First off, the last show was great; very much enjoyed it. Secondly, sorry the feedback is so late, and so short. Third: Here’s a verbatim quote from Griff: “If you are a bartender at a gay establishment, or a barback, or work in any capacity there, I kinda think that you are opening yourself up to be hit on, touched, fondled and what-not, and I think that’s okay; that’s sort of acceptable in gay bars especially.” Holy SHIT. Um, no. That is not okay. It’s not acceptable for anyone to be fondled – or “what-not” just because they happen to working at a bar. Any bar. Including gay bars. While it’s true that there’s a certain amount of being hit-on that anyone dealing with the public might have to deal with, there’s a fucking line. No touching unless it’s consented to. Period. Regarding the topics: Sho[...] Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL121: Meat and Greek http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/06/27/col121-meat-and-greek/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/06/27/col121-meat-and-greek/#comments Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:06:35 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=867 This week we discuss current events impacting the gay community. From Obama’s pride nod to EW’s thought-defying “best kiss of the week” we discuss what’s happening. Along the way we divert into men crying on TV and new ice cream flavors at Target.

Amazing Weekends

Feedback:

  • Email from Darnell

Hey Guys,

I wanted to drop you guys a line and say hello. I know in the last podcast you asked for some feedback. So here goes…. I think the show is great yet I think a little more structure would help the show. I know that you guys do have different segments but it seems sometimes the segments go by the wayside for example the “what the bu fucks” (sp) sometimes you have them and sometimes you don’t. Just something to think about.

I know for me I would love to hear the group’s opinion on current gay news and happenings around the world whether it be political, entertainment or whatever. Also I think it would be totally interesting to hear your coming out stories and when you knew you were gay seeing this is pride month. Another topic I would love to hear discussed would be do you think the bear community is one that is more accepting then the gay community as a whole. I was having a conversation with a fellow gay at work who when I told him I was going to a bear bar in DC sort of looked at me like I was crazy. It was the first time that had ever happen to me.

Ok well have a great show.

PS_ Jeff loved the vids on xtube…very HOT!!!! You should do more for sure

  • Discussion on COL Facebook Page from Sean

I love the podcast and have listened to it for awhile now. I do feel, though, that the podcast has lost a direction. The problem is this – “What do cubs talk about?” As you guys have stated in the last podcast, it seems that the gay community has gotten boring, has lost its edge while becoming more domestically accepted. But I think that is where the problem lies. I’m pretty sure that gay men still have thoughts that would be considered risque, but we don’t express them outright like we once would have in this attempt at becoming “normal”. So I pose a question that may help you guys out of a podcast rut. Do you have any thoughts that straight men (or non-cub and non-bear gay men) would find as being taboo, nasty, or just downright inappropriate? I know you guys talk fairly candidly about things, but maybe you need to just let yourselves go a bit further. As part of a younger generation, being gay hasn’t become boring or normal just yet (especially when you have to keep explaining to people what a cub/bear is and watch their reaction to the words “hairy” and “gay” being put in the same sentence). If you have to put a mild cap on the conversation for any reason, I understand, but just for ONE podcast, let yourselves cut loose and see what happens!

I love the podcast, and I hope Griff doesn’t leave! He provides a voice that is needed among you guys! Keep up the good work – movies, wine, skepticism and all :)

-Sean G.

COL News

Topics:

Fourth of July Event Round Up

  • Atlanta Bear Fest
  • Lone Star Bears – Austin
  • Beefball 2010 – 7/3 – Toronto
  • Red, White and Bears – 7/3 – Lexington
  • The Bolt – 7/3 – Sacramento

WTP:

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/06/27/col121-meat-and-greek/feed/ 0 0:00:01 This week we discuss current events impacting the gay community. From Obama’s pride nod to EW’s thought-defying “best kiss of the week” we discuss what’s happening. Along the way we divert into men crying on TV and new [...] This week we discuss current events impacting the gay community. From Obama’s pride nod to EW’s thought-defying “best kiss of the week” we discuss what’s happening. Along the way we divert into men crying on TV and new ice cream flavors at Target. Amazing Weekends Feedback: Email from Darnell Hey Guys, I wanted to drop you guys a line and say hello. I know in the last podcast you asked for some feedback. So here goes…. I think the show is great yet I think a little more structure would help the show. I know that you guys do have different segments but it seems sometimes the segments go by the wayside for example the “what the bu fucks” (sp) sometimes you have them and sometimes you don’t. Just something to think about. I know for me I would love to hear the group’s opinion on current gay news and happenings around the world whether it be political, entertainment or whatever. Also I think it would be totally interesting to hear your coming out stories and when you knew you were gay seeing this is pride month. Another topic I would love to hear discussed would be do you think the bear community is one that is more accepting then the gay community as a whole. I was having a conversation with a fellow gay at work who when I told him I was going to a bear bar in DC sort of looked at me like I was crazy. It was the first time that had ever happen to me. Ok well have a great show. PS_ Jeff loved the vids on xtube…very HOT!!!! You should do more for sure Discussion on COL Facebook Page from Sean I love the podcast and have listened to it for awhile now. I do feel, though, that the podcast has lost a direction. The problem is this – “What do cubs talk about?” As you guys have stated in the last podcast, it seems that the gay community has gotten boring, has lost its edge while becoming more domestically accepted. But I think that is where the problem lies. I’m pretty sure that gay men still have thoughts that would be considered risque, but we don’t express them outright like we once would have in this attempt at becoming “normal”. So I pose a question that may help you guys out of a podcast rut. Do you have any thoughts that straight men (or non-cub and non-bear gay men) would find as being taboo, nasty, or just downright inappropriate? I know you guys talk fairly candidly about things, but maybe you need to just let yourselves go a bit further. As part of a younger generation, being gay hasn’t become boring or normal just yet (especially when you have to keep explaining to people what a cub/bear is and watch their reaction to the words “hairy” and “gay” being put in the same sentence). If you have to put a mild cap on the conversation for any reason, I understand, but just for ONE podcast, let yourselves cut loose and see what happens! I love the podcast, and I hope Griff doesn’t leave! He provides a voice that is needed among you guys! Keep up the good work – movies, wine, skepticism and all -Sean G. COL News Obama cheered at Pride reception Topics: 5 Myths About Gay People Debunked Men crying on TV, should they be shot? Best same-sex kiss last week (partially WTP) Fourth of July Event Round Up Atlanta Bear Fest Lone Star Bears – Austin Beefball 2010 – 7/3 – Toronto Red, White and Bears – 7/3 – Lexington The Bolt – 7/3 – Sacramento WTP: The Texas GOP Wants To Punish Straight People Who Support Gay Rights? – Jeff Chili’s commercial during Losing It w/ Jillian Michaels Alzheimer’s Disease at 63 – Tim Picks: The Most Fabulous Story Ever Told – Tim Jeffrey by Paul Rudnick – Jeff Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Steam) – Jeff Star Wars The Force Unleashed: Ultimate Sith Edition Price: $14.88 (62 customer reviews) 38 used & new available from $7.91 Gazelle – Griff – Get Cash [...] Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL093: Boy Butter On The Bird http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/11/23/col093-boy-butter-on-the-bird/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/11/23/col093-boy-butter-on-the-bird/#comments Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:18:10 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/11/23/col093-boy-butter-on-the-bird/ Thanksgiving, Moving, Best of Bears, Gay News Closing Down, DC Agenda starting up, it/’s a jam packed show.  Don/’t forget to vote for COL for the Best of Bears at http://bit.ly/2009bobvote

COL News

Topics

  • USA Today – Gay Marriage
  • Kid Refuses to say Pledge (our future is in our youth)
  • 2009 Best of Bears – Why’s Griff a nominee
  • Thanksgiving

Picks:

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