Cubs Out Loud » Gay Marriage http://cubsoutloud.com The Bear Podcast of Indeterminate Length Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:25:25 +0000 en hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 COL Media podcast@cubsoutloud.com (Cubs Out Loud) podcast@cubsoutloud.com (Cubs Out Loud) 1440 http://cubsoutloud.com/wp-content/uploads/images/cubsoutloud.jpg Cubs Out Loud http://cubsoutloud.com 144 144 The Bear Podcast of Indeterminate Length Cubs Out Loud Cubs Out Loud podcast@cubsoutloud.com no yes COL146: Pie In the Windowsill http://cubsoutloud.com/2011/01/04/col146-pie-in-the-windowsill/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2011/01/04/col146-pie-in-the-windowsill/#comments Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:59:36 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=1033 While Tim’s away on sick leave Jeff and Griff take a moment to discuss how the gay community did in 2010 and what we see as the priority for 2011. We also take advantage of our “alone time” to discuss some geekier stuff.

Topics:

  • Community recap for 2010.
  • Where should the community go in 2011? (Both gay and bear)
  • “Alone time” in a relationship.

WTP:

  • Boxee Box lacks Netflix/Hulu Plus – Griff
  • G-Mail Priority Inbox causes me to miss mail – Griff

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2011/01/04/col146-pie-in-the-windowsill/feed/ 0 0:00:01 While Tim’s away on sick leave Jeff and Griff take a moment to discuss how the gay community did in 2010 and what we see as the priority for 2011. We also take advantage of our “alone time” to discuss some geekier stuff. Topics: [...] While Tim’s away on sick leave Jeff and Griff take a moment to discuss how the gay community did in 2010 and what we see as the priority for 2011. We also take advantage of our “alone time” to discuss some geekier stuff. Topics: Community recap for 2010. Where should the community go in 2011? (Both gay and bear) “Alone time” in a relationship. WTP: Boxee Box lacks Netflix/Hulu Plus – Griff G-Mail Priority Inbox causes me to miss mail – Griff Picks: Earth 2 on Netflix – Jeff HeyTell – Griff & Jeff My WW Blog – Griff Real food! – Griff Put.IO – Griff Pre-Pick: Nettop makes the perfect media center – Griff Download Podcast Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL135: Did It Kill Your Geek Hard-On? http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/10/17/col135-did-it-kill-your-geek-hard-on/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/10/17/col135-did-it-kill-your-geek-hard-on/#comments Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:18:47 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=984 Don’t ask don’t tell is on hold while Griff poses the query “Are we doing enough to support our gay youth?”  We also have a round of what the pfucks and our picks of the week. Don’t forget the nominations for the Best of the Bears 2010 are open.

Amazing Weekends

COL News

Feedback:

I have to say I disagree with Griff’s attack on apple tv. For some of us it offers all we are looking for in a stylish package. I am constantly moving about my house and there is no other product that offers the airplay feature. I can be watching something on my ipad while cooking dinner in the kitchen hit a button and pick up right where I left off in my living room. Also it is a great solution for having access to all the music and videos on our macs which are running most of the time anyway so the limitation of having to have it on to stream doesn’t impact us. I agree other boxes do more, but as someone living in the year 2010 I already have other devices to fill those voids such as the PS3 or internet enabled TV. I am sure Griff will rip these comments to shreds but I had to stand up for apple. – Homer

Topics:

  • Bike shorts!

WTP:

  • The chance that Paladino could still be elected. – Griff
  • New Cinematic for World of Warcraft Cataclysm – Jeff

Picks:

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/10/17/col135-did-it-kill-your-geek-hard-on/feed/ 2 0:00:01 Don’t ask don’t tell is on hold while Griff poses the query “Are we doing enough to support our gay youth?”  We also have a round of what the pfucks and our picks of the week. Don’t forget the nominations for the Best o[...] Don’t ask don’t tell is on hold while Griff poses the query “Are we doing enough to support our gay youth?”  We also have a round of what the pfucks and our picks of the week. Don’t forget the nominations for the Best of the Bears 2010 are open. Amazing Weekends COL News Pentagon to comply with court order to end ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ Feedback: I have to say I disagree with Griff’s attack on apple tv. For some of us it offers all we are looking for in a stylish package. I am constantly moving about my house and there is no other product that offers the airplay feature. I can be watching something on my ipad while cooking dinner in the kitchen hit a button and pick up right where I left off in my living room. Also it is a great solution for having access to all the music and videos on our macs which are running most of the time anyway so the limitation of having to have it on to stream doesn’t impact us. I agree other boxes do more, but as someone living in the year 2010 I already have other devices to fill those voids such as the PS3 or internet enabled TV. I am sure Griff will rip these comments to shreds but I had to stand up for apple. – Homer Topics: Are we in the gay community focusing on the right issues? The “It Gets Better” project on YouTube Bike shorts! WTP: The chance that Paladino could still be elected. – Griff New Cinematic for World of Warcraft Cataclysm – Jeff Picks: Hot Dogs a la Rose – Tim RED – Jeff Outsourced - Griff Download Podcast Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL130: The ‘F’ Word http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/09/06/col130-the-f-word/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/09/06/col130-the-f-word/#comments Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:27:52 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=959 On a very special Labor Day edition the guys talk about Republican support for gay marriage, Modern Family, the naming for YOUR modern family and Scruff for iPhone.

Amazing Weekends

COL News

Feedback:

  • Legal questions answered:

I just wanted to weigh in on the legal question that you presented in the last show. So here is my take on the employment discrimination issues you raised in your straight guy in gay bar scenario. Under the law if you are a straight individual working at a gay establishment and the patrons at that gay establishment “sexually harass” you. The “sexually harassing” actions by those patrons are not legally attributable to the owner of the gay establishment because there exist so legal relationship between the patrons and the owner. Thus if the straight guy wanted any recourse for the harassment he would have to sue the individuals themselves for the harassment but would not have a case against the owner/boss of the gay establishment because the actions of those individuals were not directed by the owner/boss.

I hope this makes sense. For further research into this issue looking to Torts law under the doctrines of respondeat superior and vicarious liability.

Keep the questions coming that was really fun.

Best,

Darnell

P.S. When are we going to see Jeff topless again I missed it the first go round…..hehehe

  • Comment from Chidiver – “A COL cookbook would be fun! Can the listeners get involved and contribute?
  • Email From Apex Flip

Good Afternoon All,

My name is Apexflip. I’m on the WeightWatchers group COL. I just started to listen to your podcast and I have to say I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!! You all are so funny. I love the way you all work with each other and have your own different onions on everything. It’s also nice to hear a podcast about bears.
Here in NY there isn’t much about bears. Mostly just twinks (which I can do without).
I also just wanted to say,

Jeff your fucking hot
Tim Bear, you are so cute I can just kiss you
Griff, you can fist me without boy butter anytime lol

Hope that all is well for all of you. Keep up the amazing work you three, Cant wait to hear more.

- Apexflip

Topics:

WTP:

  • A Scruff “Meh” “rant” – Jeff

Picks:

  • Stormrage by Richard Knaak – Jeff
  • MBFJ’s recipe for punch – Tim
  • Mad Men on AMC – Griff

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/09/06/col130-the-f-word/feed/ 0 0:00:01 On a very special Labor Day edition the guys talk about Republican support for gay marriage, Modern Family, the naming for YOUR modern family and Scruff for iPhone. Amazing Weekends COL News Same sex marriage becoming a Republican cause? Modern [...] On a very special Labor Day edition the guys talk about Republican support for gay marriage, Modern Family, the naming for YOUR modern family and Scruff for iPhone. Amazing Weekends COL News Same sex marriage becoming a Republican cause? Modern Family’s Gay Couple Will Kiss Feedback: Legal questions answered: I just wanted to weigh in on the legal question that you presented in the last show. So here is my take on the employment discrimination issues you raised in your straight guy in gay bar scenario. Under the law if you are a straight individual working at a gay establishment and the patrons at that gay establishment “sexually harass” you. The “sexually harassing” actions by those patrons are not legally attributable to the owner of the gay establishment because there exist so legal relationship between the patrons and the owner. Thus if the straight guy wanted any recourse for the harassment he would have to sue the individuals themselves for the harassment but would not have a case against the owner/boss of the gay establishment because the actions of those individuals were not directed by the owner/boss. I hope this makes sense. For further research into this issue looking to Torts law under the doctrines of respondeat superior and vicarious liability. Keep the questions coming that was really fun. Best, Darnell P.S. When are we going to see Jeff topless again I missed it the first go round…..hehehe Comment from Chidiver – “A COL cookbook would be fun! Can the listeners get involved and contribute? Email From Apex Flip Good Afternoon All, My name is Apexflip. I’m on the WeightWatchers group COL. I just started to listen to your podcast and I have to say I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!! You all are so funny. I love the way you all work with each other and have your own different onions on everything. It’s also nice to hear a podcast about bears. Here in NY there isn’t much about bears. Mostly just twinks (which I can do without). I also just wanted to say, Jeff your fucking hot Tim Bear, you are so cute I can just kiss you Griff, you can fist me without boy butter anytime lol Hope that all is well for all of you. Keep up the amazing work you three, Cant wait to hear more. - Apexflip Topics: Name Change in Lieu of Marriage – Name changing for gay couples not a straight line Is the F word as offensive as the N word? WTP: A Scruff “Meh” “rant” – Jeff Picks: Stormrage by Richard Knaak – Jeff MBFJ’s recipe for punch – Tim Mad Men on AMC – Griff Download Podcast Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL129: The Heterophobic City http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/22/col129-the-heterophobic-city/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/22/col129-the-heterophobic-city/#comments Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:48:52 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=954 A quick round-up of this week’s homo-news and a spattering of feedback lead us into discussing the ban on gay marriage in California, straight guys working in gay bars, the trend of bachorlette parties being held in gay bars and our most hated chores.

Next Week, COL is off for a week.  Wish Jeff a Happy 30th Birthday on the 29th and we’ll see you all in 2 weeks.

Amazing Weekends

COL News

Feedback:

So where has Jon Jon gone? I miss our gaysian cub. He seemed very sweet and adoreable.
You guys rock. Love your podcast!
-Shawn in NH

Tim needs to come up with a COL cookbook. STAT.
-Russell

The cover story of Chicago’s free daily was titled “STR8 Guy for the Gay Bar.” Yes, I’m ashamed to admit that even a free newspaper in a major city would be running such a lame story on the cover. The long and short of it is many straight men are taking employment in area gay bars. I’m not really much of a gay bar sort, but I’m a little torn on the whole concept. Sure, pretty much every person in the service business is just playing you for the money, but straight men “playing gay” is a little different (or is it?). God knows that there are more than enough gay men in the food service trade to fill these jobs, so why are likely gay bar owners filling these jobs from outside of the tribe?

It got me to thinking about another article I read about bachelorette parties deciding on gay bars and some establishments banning them. Being annoyed by bachlorettes is probably one of the many reasons I turned homo and I would like to avoid them as much as possible. I feel that all should be able to go wherever they want, but we certainly can’t go into straight and get away with acting like the soon-to-be married girls do.
-ChiDiver

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/22/col129-the-heterophobic-city/feed/ 2 0:00:01 A quick round-up of this week’s homo-news and a spattering of feedback lead us into discussing the ban on gay marriage in California, straight guys working in gay bars, the trend of bachorlette parties being held in gay bars and our most hated[...] A quick round-up of this week’s homo-news and a spattering of feedback lead us into discussing the ban on gay marriage in California, straight guys working in gay bars, the trend of bachorlette parties being held in gay bars and our most hated chores. Next Week, COL is off for a week.  Wish Jeff a Happy 30th Birthday on the 29th and we’ll see you all in 2 weeks. Amazing Weekends COL News Gay marriage no longer in California! NYC Gay bar threatened by NYPD. SLC LGBT Center hit w/ anti-gay grafitti HRC Drops Target and Best Buy Feedback: So where has Jon Jon gone? I miss our gaysian cub. He seemed very sweet and adoreable. You guys rock. Love your podcast! -Shawn in NH Tim needs to come up with a COL cookbook. STAT. -Russell The cover story of Chicago’s free daily was titled “STR8 Guy for the Gay Bar.” Yes, I’m ashamed to admit that even a free newspaper in a major city would be running such a lame story on the cover. The long and short of it is many straight men are taking employment in area gay bars. I’m not really much of a gay bar sort, but I’m a little torn on the whole concept. Sure, pretty much every person in the service business is just playing you for the money, but straight men “playing gay” is a little different (or is it?). God knows that there are more than enough gay men in the food service trade to fill these jobs, so why are likely gay bar owners filling these jobs from outside of the tribe? It got me to thinking about another article I read about bachelorette parties deciding on gay bars and some establishments banning them. Being annoyed by bachlorettes is probably one of the many reasons I turned homo and I would like to avoid them as much as possible. I feel that all should be able to go wherever they want, but we certainly can’t go into straight and get away with acting like the soon-to-be married girls do. -ChiDiver Topics: Str8 Guy for the Gay Bar Bachelorette parties in gay bars. - The New Gay The Huffington Post Bearnation.US about to go pay Most hated chores Picks: Fu-Ki Plum Wine – Tim The Wheel of Time on Audiobook – Jeff Mint.com Goals Feature – Griff The Other Guys – Griff USA Today iPad App Crossword Puzzle – Griff From Chi-Diver Chinese animation of the Jet Blue flight attendant - Blue Diamond Bold Almonds – Wasabi & Soy Blue Diamond Almonds,Bold, Wasabi & Soy, 6-Ounce Can (Pack of 6) Price: $17.31 (29 customer reviews) 5 used & new available from $17.31 Download Podcast Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL128: Unlawful proposition http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/15/col128-unlawful-proposition/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/15/col128-unlawful-proposition/#comments Mon, 16 Aug 2010 04:26:51 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=949 The recent denial of a stay in California’s Prop 8 case gets us talking about the quest for equality, while recent violence in DC gives us a reason to worry. We also get into a quick round-up of mobile bear sites…and…Neil Patrick Harris is having twins!

Amazing Weekends

COL News

  • Recent anti-gay violence shakes Washington D.C.
  • Stay to keep Prop 8 alive denied! In effect 8/18, 1700 PDT Proponents do not adequately explain the basis for their belief that marriages performed absent a stay would suffer from a “cloud of uncertainty.”
  • Proponents’ intervention in the district court does not provide them with standing to appeal.
  • “The evidence presented at trial does not support proponents’ position on domestic partnerships; instead, the evidence showed that domestic partnership is an inadequate and discriminatory substitute for marriage.”
  • Proponents claim that plaintiffs’ desire to marry is not “urgent,” because they chose not to marry in 2008. Whether plaintiffs choose to exercise their right to marry now is a matter that plaintiffs, and plaintiffs alone, have the right to decide.
  • Proponents also point to the public interest as reflected in the votes of “the people of California” who do not want same-sex couples to marry, explaining that “[t]here is no basis for this Court to second-guess the people of California’s considered judgment of the public interest.” The Governor states that “[a]llowing the Court’s judgment to take effect serves the public interest” in “[u]pholding the rights and liberties guaranteed by the federal Constitution” and in “eradicating unlawful discrimination.”
  • The evidence presented at trial and the position of the representatives of the State of California show that an injunction against enforcement of Proposition 8 is in the public’s interest. Accordingly, the court concludes that the public interest counsels against entry of the stay proponents seek.

Topics:

  • How long will it take for equality and are we willing to wait?
  • Mobile bear sites. Is Scruff really needed?
  • NPH is having twins!
So, get this: David and I are expecting twins this fall. We're super excited/nervous/thrilled. Hoping the press can respect our privacy...
August 14, 2010 12:28 pm via TwitterrificReplyRetweetFavorite
@ActuallyNPH
Neil Patrick Harris

WTP:

  • Kids are back in school already! – Griff

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  • Hackers – Jeff

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/15/col128-unlawful-proposition/feed/ 0 0:00:01 The recent denial of a stay in California’s Prop 8 case gets us talking about the quest for equality, while recent violence in DC gives us a reason to worry. We also get into a quick round-up of mobile bear sites…and…Neil Patrick Harris [...] The recent denial of a stay in California’s Prop 8 case gets us talking about the quest for equality, while recent violence in DC gives us a reason to worry. We also get into a quick round-up of mobile bear sites…and…Neil Patrick Harris is having twins! Amazing Weekends COL News Recent anti-gay violence shakes Washington D.C. Stay to keep Prop 8 alive denied! In effect 8/18, 1700 PDT Proponents do not adequately explain the basis for their belief that marriages performed absent a stay would suffer from a “cloud of uncertainty.” Proponents’ intervention in the district court does not provide them with standing to appeal. “The evidence presented at trial does not support proponents’ position on domestic partnerships; instead, the evidence showed that domestic partnership is an inadequate and discriminatory substitute for marriage.” Proponents claim that plaintiffs’ desire to marry is not “urgent,” because they chose not to marry in 2008. Whether plaintiffs choose to exercise their right to marry now is a matter that plaintiffs, and plaintiffs alone, have the right to decide. Proponents also point to the public interest as reflected in the votes of “the people of California” who do not want same-sex couples to marry, explaining that “[t]here is no basis for this Court to second-guess the people of California’s considered judgment of the public interest.” The Governor states that “[a]llowing the Court’s judgment to take effect serves the public interest” in “[u]pholding the rights and liberties guaranteed by the federal Constitution” and in “eradicating unlawful discrimination.” The evidence presented at trial and the position of the representatives of the State of California show that an injunction against enforcement of Proposition 8 is in the public’s interest. Accordingly, the court concludes that the public interest counsels against entry of the stay proponents seek. Topics: How long will it take for equality and are we willing to wait? Mobile bear sites. Is Scruff really needed? NPH is having twins! #bbpBox_21169617192 a { text-decoration:none; color:#0084B4; }#bbpBox_21169617192 a:hover { text-decoration:underline; }So, get this: David and I are expecting twins this fall. We're super excited/nervous/thrilled. Hoping the press can respect our privacy...August 14, 2010 12:28 pm via TwitterrificReplyRetweetFavorite@ActuallyNPHNeil Patrick Harris WTP: Kids are back in school already! – Griff Picks: Hackers – Jeff Hackers Price: $11.99 (321 customer reviews) 112 used & new available from $1.39 The Drowsy Chaperone at Zach Scott -Tim Breakthrough with Tony Robbins – Griff Download Podcast Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL127: Homorobotic Moobs http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/08/col127-homorobotic-moobs/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/08/col127-homorobotic-moobs/#comments Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:23:47 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=902 We get a bit serious this week discussing the homosexual agenda, gay marriage, the Target boycott and discrimination by the bear community.

Amazing Weekends

  • Griff catches up from vacation.

COL News

Feedback:

  • Long letter from FurryCajunCub
  • I am 32, 5’10”, 150lb and hairy. I guess I would be considered and otter or a wolf or a cub depending on the term that people feel fits. I am not by any means a bear, but I identify with the premise of the bear community and I certainly love a hot bear…I guess you can call me a chaser.
  • I have to say, after all these years in the bear community, I watched it transform from a very inclusive group that would accept just about anyone, to a more exclusive group that has its ideal look.
  • Discusses experiences at bear runs
  • In my opinion the issue is most gay men are not willing to strike up a conversation with someone they do not necessarily find sexually attractive. This issue is worse online than in person since it is considerably easier for someone to close a window or click the delete message button than to actually shun someone to their face.
  • I tend to say hi to everyone. Again, try being a guy that does not fit the typical bear mold and see what kind of response you receive. You guys are a prime example of this, not that I love you any less because of it; I have tried chatting with Jeff, John-John (when he was on the show), and thegriff with little to no success….I am simply making an observation.
  • Back before there were websites and people would talk to someone without ever knowing what they looked like, this was not an issue. I remember good old BBC and IRC groups where people would just talk to one another to form friendships.
  • The bear community over the 13 years I have considered myself a member, has become allot more exclusive and has gained the twink mentality of shunning people. I think it is time we took a step back and remembered our roots.
  • Email From Darnell

Hey Cubs Out Loud,

I have a topic for you guys and would love to hear your opinions on this…Moobs. Now if you don’t know what this is it slang for man boobs. Now as a stocky man myself I am a bit “heavy chested” so I have first hand experience with moobs. I have met guys who love to have their moobs played with and other who don’t. So here is my question, does a guy’s moobs equal a deal breaker or are you willing to hook up with a guy with moobs. Also if you have moobs do you enjoy having them played with? Just Curious….

Ok have a great show.

WTP:

  • Being w/out A/C for a week – Griff
  • Anti-Karen Handel ads in Atl – Griff

Picks:

  • Shopska Salata – Tim
  • Clear iSpot – Griff
  • Pocket Informant HD (iTunes Link) for iPad – Griff
  • Write-up from Biggercity – Griff
  • Looking for another podcast to keep you company? BiggerCity is proud to recommend the Cubs Out Loud podcast! Your hosts Jeffery, TimCub, and Griff provide an entertaining look at the bear world, and all the topics that link into being larger, hairier, and into other men. The now long-running podcast is hitting its 125th episode, and is a great listen, not just due to the surprisingly high production values. The fact is that Jeff, Tim, and Griff are personable, funny, and downright likeable. Their discussions will surprise you, too, with tangents diving into politics, bear runs, relationships, and everything else that affects us. Check out the link above for their site, subscribe to their RSS feed, or on iTunes!
  • Looney Tunes are BACK! Go See Cats And Dogs to see the new ‘toon, now in 3d! – Jeff

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/08/08/col127-homorobotic-moobs/feed/ 0 0:00:01 We get a bit serious this week discussing the homosexual agenda, gay marriage, the Target boycott and discrimination by the bear community. Amazing Weekends Griff catches up from vacation. COL News JUDGE OVERTURNS PROP 8 IN HISTORIC RULING Di[...] We get a bit serious this week discussing the homosexual agenda, gay marriage, the Target boycott and discrimination by the bear community. Amazing Weekends Griff catches up from vacation. COL News JUDGE OVERTURNS PROP 8 IN HISTORIC RULING Did Judge Make Right Call In Gay Marriage Case? A Brilliant Ruling: Judge Walker’s decision to overturn Prop 8 is factual, well-reasoned, and powerful. How the GOP Is Saving Gay Marriage – ChiDiver Target apologizes for donation, boycotts abound. HRC’s Open Letter to Target and Best Buy Losing site of the forest; being too concerned with the trees – Griff’s take on the Target/BB situation. Feedback: Long letter from FurryCajunCub I am 32, 5’10”, 150lb and hairy. I guess I would be considered and otter or a wolf or a cub depending on the term that people feel fits. I am not by any means a bear, but I identify with the premise of the bear community and I certainly love a hot bear…I guess you can call me a chaser. I have to say, after all these years in the bear community, I watched it transform from a very inclusive group that would accept just about anyone, to a more exclusive group that has its ideal look. Discusses experiences at bear runs In my opinion the issue is most gay men are not willing to strike up a conversation with someone they do not necessarily find sexually attractive. This issue is worse online than in person since it is considerably easier for someone to close a window or click the delete message button than to actually shun someone to their face. I tend to say hi to everyone. Again, try being a guy that does not fit the typical bear mold and see what kind of response you receive. You guys are a prime example of this, not that I love you any less because of it; I have tried chatting with Jeff, John-John (when he was on the show), and thegriff with little to no success….I am simply making an observation. Back before there were websites and people would talk to someone without ever knowing what they looked like, this was not an issue. I remember good old BBC and IRC groups where people would just talk to one another to form friendships. The bear community over the 13 years I have considered myself a member, has become allot more exclusive and has gained the twink mentality of shunning people. I think it is time we took a step back and remembered our roots. Email From Darnell Hey Cubs Out Loud, I have a topic for you guys and would love to hear your opinions on this…Moobs. Now if you don’t know what this is it slang for man boobs. Now as a stocky man myself I am a bit “heavy chested” so I have first hand experience with moobs. I have met guys who love to have their moobs played with and other who don’t. So here is my question, does a guy’s moobs equal a deal breaker or are you willing to hook up with a guy with moobs. Also if you have moobs do you enjoy having them played with? Just Curious…. Ok have a great show. WTP: Being w/out A/C for a week – Griff Anti-Karen Handel ads in Atl – Griff Picks: Shopska Salata – Tim Clear iSpot – Griff Pocket Informant HD (iTunes Link) for iPad – Griff Write-up from Biggercity – Griff Looking for another podcast to keep you company? BiggerCity is proud to recommend the Cubs Out Loud podcast! Your hosts Jeffery, TimCub, and Griff provide an entertaining look at the bear world, and all the topics that link into being larger, hairier, and into other men. The now long-running podcast is hitting its 125th episode, and is a great listen, not just due to the surprisingly high production values. The fact is that Jeff, Tim, and Griff are personable, funny, and downright likeable. Their discussions will surprise you, too, with tangents diving into politics, bear runs, relationships, and everything else that affects us. Check out the link above for their site, subscribe to their RSS feed, or on[...] Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL124: Cuddle Freeway and the Liberal Blue Hole http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/07/18/col124-cuddle-freeway-and-the-liberal-blue-hole/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/07/18/col124-cuddle-freeway-and-the-liberal-blue-hole/#comments Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:36:15 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=882 A slew of feedback starts off this episode including a hilariously translated voicemail  from Cookie. We discuss recent gay news and whether or not we’d attend a bear run while in a relationship. All this and Jeff has a Red Bull and HE’S NOT AFRAID TO DRINK IT!

Amazing Weekends

Feedback:

  • From the blog: DavidinAZ wrote:

For the record it was a bean free chili competition. Most of these don’t use beans it focuses on the treatment of the meat and sauce. My husbear and I are both quite legal US born citizens and are happy to show anyone our papers who wants to stop by for an appletini.

  • Voicemail from Cookie (Google Voice Transcription)

Glorious Alan J U So I was just you got. I love you and now you calling me up, hotmail, has the IN feel that this come along, seriously So I was waiting at the wedding. Anyway, it’s. I hope he’s ready for that. Cuddle freeway that you’ve been describing Hi. This is J. F. K and I’m Hey Jess Hello, I am. I don’t know what the. If you’ll boyfriends. I’m coming up in less than 2 months. I’ll be off of boyfriend for that a couple days have that sound and Chris So I just knew teaches you want me to change it. Yeah, mom walls around and I haven’t been up with the camera long enough to. If you get to do any clear anyway. Hi Team, and seems boyfriend job. Hope you’re all doing well, and also so you almost all of you in less than 2 months. The an invoice.

  • Comment on Brad’s email

COL News

Topics:

  • Would you attend Bear Runs if you were partnered?

WTP:

  • Portion sizes at restaurants – Griff
  • Going out of town for issues other than vacation – Tim

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/07/18/col124-cuddle-freeway-and-the-liberal-blue-hole/feed/ 0 0:00:01 A slew of feedback starts off this episode including a hilariously translated voicemail  from Cookie. We discuss recent gay news and whether or not we’d attend a bear run while in a relationship. All this and Jeff has a Red Bull and HE’S[...] A slew of feedback starts off this episode including a hilariously translated voicemail  from Cookie. We discuss recent gay news and whether or not we’d attend a bear run while in a relationship. All this and Jeff has a Red Bull and HE’S NOT AFRAID TO DRINK IT! Amazing Weekends Feedback: From the blog: DavidinAZ wrote: For the record it was a bean free chili competition. Most of these don’t use beans it focuses on the treatment of the meat and sauce. My husbear and I are both quite legal US born citizens and are happy to show anyone our papers who wants to stop by for an appletini. Voicemail from Cookie (Google Voice Transcription) Glorious Alan J U So I was just you got. I love you and now you calling me up, hotmail, has the IN feel that this come along, seriously So I was waiting at the wedding. Anyway, it’s. I hope he’s ready for that. Cuddle freeway that you’ve been describing Hi. This is J. F. K and I’m Hey Jess Hello, I am. I don’t know what the. If you’ll boyfriends. I’m coming up in less than 2 months. I’ll be off of boyfriend for that a couple days have that sound and Chris So I just knew teaches you want me to change it. Yeah, mom walls around and I haven’t been up with the camera long enough to. If you get to do any clear anyway. Hi Team, and seems boyfriend job. Hope you’re all doing well, and also so you almost all of you in less than 2 months. The an invoice. Comment on Brad’s email COL News Argentina legalizes SSM Charges dropped against Choi Topics: Would you attend Bear Runs if you were partnered? WTP: Portion sizes at restaurants – Griff Going out of town for issues other than vacation – Tim Picks: Reese’s Sticks – Jeff Springpad Notes – Griff BiggerCity – Griff Download Podcast Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL099: Is That Corn? http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/01/17/col099-is-that-corn/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/01/17/col099-is-that-corn/#comments Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:48:59 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/01/17/col099-is-that-corn/ Hosts: Jeff, JJ, Tim, Griff

With the rampant Anti-Gay Marriage news, the Cubs and Griff discuss happenings from around the country, napkin rings and low cal treats.  Be sure to join us live January 24th for our 100th episode!

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  • DC Judge rules against gay marriage referendum.
  • NJ Senate defeats gay marriage bill.
  • Rough sex leads to conviction
  • No broadcast of Prop 8 trial – discuss.

Topics:

  • We have Brokeback Mountain, what else do we want?!
  • It’s our 100th show next week!
  • Griff’s on a Diet, you can help.

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  • Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh – Griff
  • COL Pilot released exactly 2 years ago today – Thursday, January 17th, 2008

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2010/01/17/col099-is-that-corn/feed/ 1 0:00:01 Hosts: Jeff, JJ, Tim, Griff With the rampant Anti-Gay Marriage news, the Cubs and Griff discuss happenings from around the country, napkin rings and low cal treats.  Be sure to join us live January 24th for our 100th episode! COL News DC Judge rul[...] Hosts: Jeff, JJ, Tim, Griff With the rampant Anti-Gay Marriage news, the Cubs and Griff discuss happenings from around the country, napkin rings and low cal treats.  Be sure to join us live January 24th for our 100th episode! COL News DC Judge rules against gay marriage referendum. NJ Senate defeats gay marriage bill. Rough sex leads to conviction No broadcast of Prop 8 trial – discuss. Topics: We have Brokeback Mountain, what else do we want?! It’s our 100th show next week! Griff’s on a Diet, you can help. WTP: Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh – Griff COL Pilot released exactly 2 years ago today – Thursday, January 17th, 2008 ]Picks: Outback Steakhouse Nutrition Calculator – Griff Robertson: Hate and Haiti – Griff Austin Symphony Orchestra – Tim Skinny Cow – JJ Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL096: Goodnight 2009 http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/12/28/col096-goodnight-2009/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/12/28/col096-goodnight-2009/#comments Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:27:39 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/?p=773 Tim, JJ, and Jeff say goodbye to 2009.

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  • Goodbye to 2009
  • New Year’s Resolutions

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]]> http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/12/28/col096-goodnight-2009/feed/ 0 0:00:01 Tim, JJ, and Jeff say goodbye to 2009. COL News Mexico City legalizes same-sex marriage, adoptions Topic: Goodbye to 2009 New Year’s Resolutions Picks: Assassin’s Creed 2 – JJ Assassin’s Creed II – Grea[...] Tim, JJ, and Jeff say goodbye to 2009. COL News Mexico City legalizes same-sex marriage, adoptions Topic: Goodbye to 2009 New Year’s Resolutions Picks: Assassin’s Creed 2 – JJ Assassin’s Creed II – Greatest Hits edition Price: $18.89 (397 customer reviews) 131 used & new available from $11.20 The Melting Pot – Tim Podcasts Cubs Out Loud yes no COL093: Boy Butter On The Bird http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/11/23/col093-boy-butter-on-the-bird/ http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/11/23/col093-boy-butter-on-the-bird/#comments Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:18:10 +0000 boxtech http://cubsoutloud.com/2009/11/23/col093-boy-butter-on-the-bird/ Thanksgiving, Moving, Best of Bears, Gay News Closing Down, DC Agenda starting up, it/’s a jam packed show.  Don/’t forget to vote for COL for the Best of Bears at http://bit.ly/2009bobvote

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  • USA Today – Gay Marriage
  • Kid Refuses to say Pledge (our future is in our youth)
  • 2009 Best of Bears – Why’s Griff a nominee
  • Thanksgiving

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