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COL388: Entourage Feedback

col388In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys take some time to look at some of your feedback! That’s right! Thanks to the listeners, the cubs are able to dedicate a whole episode to what you all wish to say to them.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: 3 Down, 21 to go
  • Damon: OT/Interview
  • Chester: End of roadtrip, soulsearching
  • Gary: Changing Seasons

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It’s a COL Entourage feedback show!

From BearUnderground.net

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Pvt msg to Chester:
Cubs out loud is back. Great. Same cast or some new members? (I replied)
Followed by:
Welcome to the group! How did you come to get involved? There wasn’t much talk of the show lately on this site but enjoyed listening to all the guys get together and talk about things. Does the group ever meet in person for events?

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Posted 1 month ago re: COL380 Power Hour 4

This one was definitely worth the watch on YouTube. The shirtless eye candy wasn’t available on my podcast audio. ;P

chubnerdchaser

Posted 2 months ago re: COL374: Bear Origins

Highly recommend listening to at least 374 if you’re not a regular listener. It’s really good. I laughed, I cried, I got a semi. Thanks for recording it!

chubnerdchaser

Posted 3 months ago COL372: LTAS: The DL Deal

Really loved this episode! As someone who is one of the (mostly) D/L guys, it was good to hear more from the other side of the coin. Also really glad you touched on the type of D/L guys who aren’t “out” about being into chubs or bears, even if they’re otherwise out as gay. It’s one of my pet peeves!

Keep up the great work!

chubnerdchaser

Posted 4 months ago re: COL367 Bear Issues….?

Loved this episode – thanks!

Email from Tony B.

Hi guys,

Gary recently told me online that I was mentioned in the latest episode. I admit I hadn’t listened since his adventures at Claw, simply haven’t had time. I did subscribe to the Youtube channel, but didn’t get any further.

But the latest episode appears to not be working, so I listened to 383 and wanted to chime in.

Young Bears:

Here in St. Louis, myself and another bear, started a new type of bear club back in 2002. “The Bears of St. Louis” or BOSL for short. The main local bear club (Show Me Bears) is based out of a bar and I’d

wager 99% of its events are held at the bar. So we started our club with the intent of NOT being bar based. This was two-fold. First, there was no overlap with the existing club, so we wouldn’t “steal members”, but second, it could grab a new audience.

And it did.

We had a *LOT* of college-aged involvement which is rare of standard bear clubs.

Their participation was because a lot of school-based LGBT clubs are geared more towards visibility and (at the time) equal rights and not so much for individuals tastes. So as people interested in bears, they didn’t feel at home there. They weren’t ignored, but the posters didn’t have muscle bears or hairy men, they were gay icons and “pretty boys”, not the gruff kind of men they found interest in.

BUT… we also had one 16 year old attend a potluck of ours, WITH his father. Sadly he didn’t come back. Not because of anything wrong, per se. Basically his father was a bear, just a straight one, and so everyone chatted with him. The young guy felt distanced because not only was his father getting all the attention (worst thing that could happen for a youth) but he wasn’t getting anyone hitting on him, and he was frustrated. I explained that part of it was because his father hit a lot of people’s interests and that he was still “dangerous” being still too young for most guys to associate with too much. The father loved the fact that his expectations were wrong. He assumed we’d be stereotypical gays and instead found himself standing around a BBQ pit with a beer in hand talking about sports… with a couple who had been together for 10+ years. So I’m certain we helped him adjust a little better in regards to his son. 🙂

But with most consent laws being 17 or 18 (depending on state), I can see where the 18 year old is the line, but for the most part, every run I’ve been to has enforced a 21-year or older requirement on their applications. And while it sucks, a lot of times it is because of the venues that the events are hosted at. (Bars, hotels, van/buses, etc.)

There is a need for groups like this. Sadly our group fell apart as it wasn’t designed to be anything more than a social group, so there was no real power structure in place and by 2004, it was gone. Was an amazing two years though. 🙂

One thing I’ll mention that our group also had in participation… Recovering alcoholics.

I never anticipated that, but by not doing events at the bar and providing non-bar based activities, we had a lot of participation from people who had to avoid alcohol.

Another group it attracted and I half-expected this… Couples.

Couples don’t tend to hit the bars a lot as the constant barrage of flirting, drunken gropes, etc, can be a bit much. But for a non-sexualized bear club, there was a lot of couples interested in coming to events.

So there is a market for non-bar based clubs. I know that’s a diversion off the 18-21 year old topic, but I wanted to mention some other groups that get overlooked by the current organizations out there.

Bisexuality:

I like the phrase “Bi-Now, Gay-Later”, very cute.

So, I dated a Bisexual Poly man, in a gay monogamous relationship (which became a triad) and it ended roughly a year after we started. He is currently married to a woman. I get asked how I feel about that and my comment is always “The only thing I’m upset about is that I didn’t get a damned invite to the wedding!”

Sexuality is fluid. I know a bisexual man who loves skinny women with huge boobs and big men (presumeably with moobs). I found it fascinating to hear him describe it all. But it is who he is.

I myself identify as gay, but I have seen women who I’d have sex with… Probably just morbid curiosity, but I could. I think. Maybe. *shrug* No real interest in finding out though. (And don’t tell my mother, or it’ll rekindle her questions about when I’m going to have kids. Oi.)

Onto the topic of Leather/BDSM play spaces and Sex/Gender issues:

One thing to point out is that there’s an interesting duality here. Play spaces mean different things to different segments of the Leather/BDSM world.

For the pan-sexual world, sex is one aspect of play, but it isn’t an identifier. The BDSM acts are.

For the gay world, sex *IS* our defining trait. We are gay because we want man-on-man action. Thus it is a focus.

And to me, THAT is where the separation comes in. Pansexual BDSM is about the BDSM, not sex. Gay BDSM is about fetishized sex. Not solely and they both cross paths, but the “what gets people hot” is different.

50 Shades of Grey makes gay leathermen giggle with how “quaint” it is. But for women, it’s amazing. By the same token, women who watch gay BDSM videos, they want the raw animal nature of it, the power exchange, the testosterone dripping during the scene…

Can a crossover happen at an event? That gets complicated, especially when it comes to the law. Because straight sex can create children… how would an event handle that? But I’m sure it could happen (and probably does, just not publically known.)

As such, most of the pansexual events I’ve seen are BDSM only, sex back in your room. While most gay events are BDSM mainly, but sex might happen, so be prepared.

Keep in mind, this is no different than bars. How many straight bars have a “back room”? Yet that was a mainstay in the gay bar scene for decades (and still exists in some areas).

Forced bisexuality in BDSM:

I disagree with the topic brought up that a straight couple, the man might force the woman to have sex with another woman…

There is ALWAYS a choice in BDSM. Even slaves CAN say no. (They might not like the consequences, but they can.)

And remember, pansexual BDSM is rarely about sex and more about the BDSM itself. So yes, a Dom male may force a sub female to “assist” with another sub female, but rarely would he force them into sex (unless that was negotiated as a possibility, etc.) and frankly, most Dom males would much prefer something more along the lines of binding one while having sex with the other and forcing the other to watch, much as many Dom males with two male subs would… The BDSM aspect is the same either way.

The problem we see is that as gay men, we don’t distinguish sex from BDSM. And so we assume a BDSM act between one man and two women would be sexual, but it may not be. Just as we would see three men together and if the only activity that happened was bondage, we’d go “really? Just being tied up? No sex? Damn. What a waste.”

While the acts of BDSM are the same either way, one is more of sensuality and heightening arousal (pansexual) while the other (gay) is much more focused on the complete action from start to finish.

And again, is that fixed? Not at all. I’ve seen pansexual scenes that were to completion and I’ve been in gay scenes that involved no sex. But we tend to drift to categorize based on what we like… and we have to watch out for that assumption.

Just my thoughts.

Great episode and look forward to the next one. (Soooooo nervous about how I got brought up. Hehe…)

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COL377: PokéPup Go

COL377-PokéPupGoIn this episode of Cubs Out Loud, it’s time to GO! We welcome guest host Chester, aka Shutter, to talk about the recent cultural fad known as Pokémon Go! The cubs talk about the game, its origins, and give a more critical take on playing plus the ins and outs of the game. Who’s gotta catch ‘em all?

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: My eyes.
  • Damon: Been keeping busy (CMC, contests, Roseland, etc.)
  • Gary: Chillin’ w/ food stuff
  • Chester: Return

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Urbandictionary with Gary

  • Pokemon goo: When a person ejalculates while playing the game “Pokemon go.” This usually occurs near spawn points of legendary/rare Pokemon.

Kevin is that Mewtew??

Kevin: *pokemon goos self*

Weekly Topic

PokéPup Go

The game that went viral.
Businesses getting into the mayhem (humane societies encouraging people to come walk their dogs, libraries creating “badges” for patronage, bars/shops )

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COL371: HNU: State of the Community 2016

COL371In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys are joined by special guests from across the pond, Bruce and Shutter, to speak on the state of our community. In a year of highlights and lowlights to the LGBT community, the cubs gather together to share their perspectives on US marriage equality, the Orlando shooting, and the UK’s recent vote to potentially leave the EU. It’s a Hostful New Update special edition.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Welcome to Quarter End.
  • Damon: Pride and OMGKC
  • Gary: Holy Rainbows Batman
  • Bruce: Traveling for work (Austria, Switzerland), Alton Towers
  • Chester: Tidal Wave, Men of the Den, came back to England for a few months

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Hi again, cubs!

First, I would like to thank you for giving me a shout out in your last episode. I am glad my email was able to clarify some of your questions and I hope your episode was able to answer other people’s questions as well. Second, I was gladly surprised to receive a public invitation to your podcast! I’d be happy to try it out as I have never been invited to a podcast before. I am going to be moving to Albuquerque, NM this Friday and will not have internet at home for a few days… or many (if you have comcast you may know what I mean). However, let me know how you’d like to start this.

Best,

Francisco Salgado-Garcia (aka Cisco)

Weekly Topic

  • LGBTQIA status today – one year ago on June 26th, 2015 the US Supreme Court made Marriage Equality a reality.
  • June 12th, 2016 – Pulse Orlando

Google+ post shared in the COL Entourage Community

Rex Rivers:

I will not be silenced by fear.

The father of Omar Mateen, the suspect who shot and killed more than 50 people at Orlando’s gay nightclub Pulse, said that his son didn’t like it when he saw two men kissing recently in Miami.

Go out and kiss. In public. Make seeing a kiss a common thing. Take away it’s “shock” value. Do it for those who died, and those who won’t because you had the courage to express your love.

  • UK referendum decision to leave the European Union and its impact on the global society

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COL353: LTAK: Watersports

COL353In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, It’s another Let’s Talk About Kink. The cubs are joined by guest hosts Bruce, Shutter, and Josh as we talk about watersports. From piss play to recycling, the guys discuss the different variations of the yellow hankie.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff – I QUIT! . . . . and I got Ice Cream cake.
  • Damon – Love is a Cabaret
  • Gary – KY is coming
  • Bruce – Possible Euro Travel
  • Chester –  Last on the show in October for LTAK: Chastity.  I’ve finished school, I have 2 weeks left here in London.  A very full list of bear runs planned when I return.
  • Josh – If the area around your appendix is hurting, you should probably see a doctor…

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Urbandictionary with Gary

  • Water PisstolThe act of pouring piss into ones anus with a funnel, after which masturbating furiously for 10 seconds (acting like the pump on a water pistol). After which the participant squeezes the piss out of their arse like a water pistol.

”Last night my friend came round to my house and we both help each other fill out water pisstols then had a water pisstol fight”
”Last night I was practising with my water pisstol, I shot three meters”

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LTAK: Watersports

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COL323: LTAS: PrEP and the Bears

COL323In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, It’s another Let’s Talk About Sex. The cubs are joined by regular guest hosts Ches and Shutter as well as new guest Josh to discuss PrEP and its rise in usage in the community. From how to get on it to its effects and what they feel it means to the community, listen in as we share some facts and information about PrEP, Truvada, and HIV prevention.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff – Nothing
  • Damon – Camping
  • Gary – Mid-summer already?
  • Ches – Moving Gabriel and Fuzzbutt; Mr. Kentucky Leather & KINK U
  • Chester –  Prepping for temp move to the UK.
  • Josh – Dore and/or Folsom. Also enjoying the beach as much as possible

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Urbandictionary with Gary

Neener-neener

A childish taunt or jeer pronounced with a nasal sneer, for lack of a more intelligent retort to someone else’s jeer or taunt, usually from a peer. Sometimes sung to the tune of “Ring-Around-the-Rosy” for really driving the point home.

My definition is better than all the other stupid definitions listed here – neener neener.

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Discussion of PrEP in the bear community.

Items of interest to the topic:

  • Educate: what it is, how it is taken, what it does
  • The results of usage – stats on reduction in transmission?
  • Campaigns to promote it overall
  • The negative side of people using it – examples of going off pill/treatment

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