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COL613: LoR: New Relationship Energy

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys are joined again by Edward Angelini-Cooke to continue our Landscape of Relationships series.  Today’s topic is New Relationship Energy.  That euphoric feeling one gets from their glorious new relationship! However, there can be some challenges.  From Limerence of monogamy to the NRE of Polyamory, the cubs break down the pros and cons of this addiction to love.

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Landscape of Relationships: New Relationship Energy

How many songs can you think of that frame romantic love to addiction?

Limerence

  • Dorothy Tennov, psychologist, coined the term limerence in her 1979 book Love and Limerence to describe the phenomenon of the thoughts, feelings, and behaviors of beginning a relationship.  We also call it having a crush.  These feelings are categorized as being intrusive and everything seems to be about this person.  We can’t listen to the radio because every song seems to be about them.  Everything we see seems to remind us about them.  They become the central force of gravity in your life.  A black hole of attraction.  We have all had it at some time or another….and sometimes it is even reciprocated. 

New Relationship Energy (NRE)

  • Similar to limererance but for individuals in polyamorous relationships to describe and help manage the thoughts and feelings that arise during new relationship among already existing ones.  This is helpful to frame especially when feelings of jealousy from other partners are present.  
  • NRE is a hot topic in poly circles because it often comes up.

You know that song “Your Love is a Drug” by Kesha?  

  • She wasn’t lying.
  • The same chemical reactions that occur neurologically during the limerence phase of a new relationship also occur during crack cocaine addiction.  The relationship gives us the all of that feel good dopamine and norepinephrine, but also comes with obsessive thoughts when you are not with that other person…similar to withdrawal.  That is because we are experiencing low serotonin production at these times, which satiates us and lets us know “mmmm…..I’m full.”  Like Alexander Hamilton, we can never be satisfied in those early months.  

Cons of NRE 

  • Hyperfocus on new relationship, neglect other relationships and responsibilities 
  • Increases likelihood of negatively evaluating other partner’s behaviors.
  • Sometimes questionable behavior that is uncharacteristic (e.g. moving, big purchases)
  • Overlooking red flags 

Pros of NRE

  • Good feelings
  • High energy
  • Increased likelihood to try new things
  • Community wisdom (you are not alone…there are MANY others who have been there too)

What to do?

  • Head in the Clouds, Feet on the Floor
    • Its okay to be feel the good feelings….but be practical.
  • Don’t make big purchases: ( e.g. sign anything anything over $500 without consulting outside party)
  • Check In’s with friends and date nights with partners 
  • USE THAT ENERGY IN OTHER RELATIONSHIPS!!!
  • This, too, shall pass.
    • Research suggests 6 months to 2 years.

Old Relationship Energy (aka Established Relationship Energy, Existing Relationship Energy)

  • Old Relationship Energy: (noun) The dynamic of a long-standing established romantic or sexual relationship. Related to the Greek concept of pragma or mature love. Also known as companionate love. Also known as ORE. Its opposite is New Relationship Energy (or NRE).
  • Companionate love (secure) vs limerence (insecure)
  • Playing an instrument you are comfortable with….

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Mina Beveney Dissertation Kinky POC Research Study

Are you a kinky person of color?  You may be eligible to participate in an anonymous online survey about your experiences!  This research will amplify and center the voices of kinky people of color, and results may benefit the larger community. Mina Beveney, a doctoral candidate and Black psychotherapist, is seeking participants for a 20 to 30-minute survey that will ask about experiences of racial or ethnic discrimination, sexual self-concept, and coping.

If you are a person of color age 18 or over that has participated in in-person BDSM spaces or contexts in the United States within the past 24 months, please follow this link (https://rebrand.ly/RaceKinkSurvey) to find out more and participate. Participants may choose to enter into a drawing to win a one of four $25 gift cards.

Thank you for your interest in this research!

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COL453: WYR: XXX

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, Jeff, Chester, and Gary play another round Would You Rather! This time, we asked our COL Entourage to join us live through an online app.  We answer 20 XXX questions which produced some rather interesting results. See how your answers match up.

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Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Divorce, Unlocked Allies, and a new Toy
  • Chester: Hashmarker, Lady Bears, ONYX?
  • Gary: NAB IS COMING

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  • @ernie365123
    • Thanks @cubsoutloud for shout out on your podcast for me following your YouTube channel. You ended up getting my name right towards the end haha.
  • @GBearTrekker65
    • Enjoying the big beary fun of @cubsoutloud podcast episode 452: Who You Callin’ A Chaser?

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  • Gaprofbear – RE: COL452 – Who You Callin’ A Chaser?
    • great show guys

Show Topic

It’s another installment of Would You Rather, the XXX edition!

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COL421: Couples Age Differences

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud,  we are joined by Ches to talk about intergenerational relationships: the good, the bad, and the uncomfortable. We get it on with the May-December, throw down with All the Young Dudes, dust off our Silver Daddy/Santa fantasies, and talk about how cubs and Daddy bears make age-gaps in relationships work.

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Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Computer Down, Repeat, Computer Down!
  • Damon: Part of an panel
  • Chester: It’s been a hell of a month!
  • Gary: Guess who’s back in the house?
  • Ches: Pride; Birthday; Welcome baby Finnian!

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  • Andrew Ealy ordered a COL T-Shirt and sent us a photo with the message “How YOU doin’ !!! Got my new COL shirt today!”

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  • @dftbapaul in re: to
    • COLSP06: Daddy’s Day Storytime
      • “Whew that was sexy. Blushing at work
      • In a reply to @fyzzgiggidy
        • Btw a good way to get more info is to go to the @cubsoutloud podcast and use the search feature and look up the ltak (let’s talk about kink)
    • Missing COLDR tweets.

Weekly Topic

Relationships with Age Spans between the Partners

  • Age is a number… Generational Gaps no longer defined
  • Values, Morals, and Ethics.
    • Values: Are having an emotional investment (either for or against something)
    • Morals: Are your ideas of what is right and what is wrong
    • Ethics: Are a set of rules which are explicitly adopted by a group of people
  • Age, Maturity, Life Experiences
    • Older Age =/= Mature, just as Younger Age =/= immature
  • Friends and Family Reactions/Acceptance
  • Challenges
    • Lack of life experiences can be frustrating
    • Facing down the question of mortality
  • Advantages
    • Experiencing new things together
      • Sharing our favorite things
        • music, movies, Gaming/TTG
      • Seeing things “new” again
      • The ability to help teach

Cooldown Topics

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COL374: OTR: Bear Origins

COL374In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, Gary took a roadtrip across a couple of states and ended up in Cincinnati for some weekend activities. During his time there, he sat down with Jeff Rockcub and his partner Ronnie to talk about when they determined their recognition of ‘bears’.

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On The Road Topic

Bear Origins

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