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COL555: The Landscape of Relationships – Part 4

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys are joined once again by Edward Angelini-Cooke to discuss the landscape of relationships. In this fourth installment, Edward and the cubs break down the complicated emotion of jealousy and how it affects romantic and other relationships. Is jealousy truly a green-eyed monster or just simply misunderstood?

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The Landscape of Relationships – Jealousy

Jealousy Quotes 

“Beware….of jealousy!  It is the green-eyed monster, which doth mock/The meat it feeds on.”-Iago, Othello, William Shakespeare

“Jealousy in romance is like salt in food. A little can enhance the savor, but too much can spoil the pleasure and, under certain circumstances, can be life-threatening.” – Maya Angelou 

“Jealousy is not a barometer by which the depth of love can be read, it merely records the degree of the lover’s insecurity.” – Margaret Mead 

Cognitive Triangle 

Emotions

  • Emotions are needed for survival 

Universally accepted expressions of feelings 

Notice there are more “negative emotions” than “positive emotions”….why?

Complex Emotions 

examples : Grief, Regret, Jealousy, Envy

  • Complex emotions include various emotional states (e.g. grief is the one we are most familiar with….Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance).  Freud’s model of Jealousy includes four major components:  Grief (pain of losing a relationship), Realization (we can’t have everything we want), Enmity (towards the “winner” of affection/attention), and Anger towards ourselves that we are not good enough.
  • Complex emotions  vary based on the person, situation, and culture….therefore, we can not rely on universally accepted facial expression.

Jealousy

  • What is it?  Jealousy is a complex emotion that includes feelings of anger, sadness, fear.  Typically experienced when a person experienced a threat to a relationship.
  • DISCLAIMER:  This feeling is not only reserved for romantic relationships.  We can have feelings of jealousy in familial, work, and friend relationships.  
  • Is it normal?  Absolutely.  Evolutionary scientists have shown that animals, such as dogs, experience jealousy.  It is a necessary emotion in order to preserve social bonds.  While it may be normal, it may not be helpful.  
  • People who experience jealousy in relationships, not shockingly, report decreased relationship satisfaction.
  • Why am I feeling Jealous? Research suggests that low self-esteem, possessiveness over others, high neuroticism , fear of abandonment are predictors of jealousy.  
  • Suspicious jealous-feeling stimulated by a thought or a feeling….this is typically due to an attachment trauma, self-conscious, low self esteem.  
  • Reactive jealousy-feeling stimulated by an actual event or triggers.  (Second Life study)

 

What Do We Do?

 

  • Work on yourself first….

 

      • What is your relationship with jealousy?  Do you have a pattern of jealousy in your life?  How intense?  
      • What are you feeling (angry, sad, or afraid)?  
      • What evidence do we have?  What am I thinking about?  
      • Why am I feeling this way? Am I envious?  At whom or what?  
      • How am I experiencing this physically?  If I feel tense, can I relax? 
      • Notice that your thoughts and emotions shift and change….this isn’t going to last forever.
      • Once you do this….then we can talk to our partner.
      • Communicate with your partner your feelings.  Recognize that jealousy isn’t a bad thing.  Discuss boundaries.

 

  • If your partner is the one who is jealous….

 

    • Listen to them….completely (Mantra: Just Shut Up and Listen!)
    • Don’t respond 
    • Reflect back what you are hearing
    • Practice empathy
    • Recognize that the jealous says more about them than it does about you.  

Addressing your Jealousy 

  • Refer to The Jealousy Workbook Chapter 17 through the end 
    • Buddhism, mindfulness, meditation, attachment 
    • Eye Movement, Desensitization, and Reprocessing (EMDR) 
    • Positive affirmations
    • Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) CBT therapy that disects thoughts, feelings, and behaviors.

Compersion

  • Combination of pleasant feelings and thoughts towards your partner when they are in a positive romantic relationship with someone else.  
  • Turning jealousy into compersion….finding neutrality.  Increase empathy.  Look through their eyes.
  • Constriction to expansion.
  • Exclusion, abandonment, and deprivation to belonging, autonomy, and responsibility.  

Review:

  • Jealousy is a normal emotion, but not always helpful.
  • Listen to what jealousy is telling you as the person experiencing it or the person receiving it.  
  • Don’t avoid that you are on the ride.
  • Communicate 
  • If you feel you suffer from anxious attachment, talking to someone is helpful. 

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COL515: What’s Going On – June 2019

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, it’s our What’s Going On episode for the month of June. This time around, the guys talk about butt stuff, and dungeons, and sexual positions and more….Wait, is this an episode of Let’s Talk About Kink? Not really.

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Night Shift & Dragons
  • Damon: Job News & Colonoscopy & Yesterday
  • Gary: New Stuff is Rough

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  • @jkiykvgi
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Recent Shows

  • COL511: WTG – May 2019
  • FB215: Black Shirt Friday
  • COL512: What is. . . Pride?
  • COL513: 50 Years From Now
  • COL514: Trans Bear Listener

Blog Post: 

Name: Howard N

Message: Hey guys. Wanted to write an email. Pride month is coming up and I wanted to talk a little bit about it, if I may. Pride can mean a lot of things to a lot of people, and I know the holiday is more specifically concerning lgbt+ persons, but I wanted to say a little bit about what Pride is to me. My coming out is a little different from regular coming outs, with bits being thing that are the same. I remember being so ashamed of who I am, as my background was heavily influenced by the Christian religion. I remember my first boyfriend, and the way he sat on my bed in my college paid apartment room and stated, “I’m not shy”. And the way I walked toward the bed and sat down and being instantly drawn to be felt against his body as he kissed my forehead. Cut forward a bit, I remember being angry with my mother on the phone after the day I had come out to her when she had come down for a visit. I remember feeling like she no longer understood me after years of being close (I was 20 at the time). Cut forward a bit more to a Kohl’s clothing store. I remember my first ex telling me to stop following him around as we were walking around the store. Cut to nights of feeling heartbroken and being taken advantage of. Cut to following relationships with guys and wanting to find somebody like him and me wanting to find someone I felt comfortable with again cause I no longer felt at home under the same roof with my mom. Cut to my self-hate and resentment at myself for getting so emotionally attached to people that I can’t let go, they hang around like ghosts in my head. Cut to the realization that my self-hate was more than just the fact that I was gay. And cut to me learning about Neurodiversity and autism. And how suicide ideation is more common in autistics who mask their neurology to suit the needs of the many. And to me realizing why I have such a hard time with understanding the dynamics of relationships. Being autistic is a lot like being gay in the fact that you don’t want to come out of the closet, even when everybody can tell there’s something different about you, wrong even. All through school I wanted to be like others so bad. I did weird stupid stuff to try and fit in with the social norms. But there’s a constant anxiety, and as you grow older, the anxiety turns into what’s called a mental illness (meaning you can be so afraid to the point of paranoia). This paranoia comes around particularly with people I like because I want so bad for them to like me and am so afraid of losing. Friends have lost connection, romantic relationships go sour…….I don’t want this anymore. I don’t want to be ashamed of who I am, the way I act and think differently from others, the way I react or my stimming (a term for autistics to explain the things they do to cope with stress). I want to stop being afraid of being social and being taken the wrong way. I take Pride in the fact that I am wired differently. (Btw, the symbol for Neurodiversity is a rainbow infinity)

Email:

Gents,

Thank you all for doing this show. I so greatly respect your willingness to be public and open about your learning and growth; it’s not easy. The trans community is so important to me (a close partner is trans, long story), and I’m always so happy to see continued growth in the acceptance and support of our trans siblings. More learning for me too.

Some thoughts that crossed my mind while listening:

  • I think Jeff had a great idea; more trans porn! Lots of learning (up close and personal) to be had with more porn. No harm, lots of education, no one feeling under the microscope.
  • I think a guest on the show to talk more about the trans experience is a great idea. And while I love Hadrian, I feel like despite his breadth of experience (no shade!), it should really be a trans-masculine bear to discuss it in more depth.
  • A podcast recently came out called Two Headed Girl, where a trans-masculine person discusses a lot of issues around their transition. The two hosts are great. Might not be the kind of focused piece that’s helpful but it’s a wonderfully personal show.

Anyway, just random listener thoughts. Thanks again for keeping me company.

Best,

/Chris G

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Author: Patrick B. (bostonareabear) 

Next on COL – episode 3133 (50 years from now in 2069) We will hear Hadrian read from his latest short story titled “Get off my lawn and get into my Craftmatic Adjustable Bed!”

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COL460: Disney Madness

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys get into the maddening of last month, but use a different format. The cubs combine their love of Disney movies and the thrill of competition and bring together a bracket to pick the overall winner. Which movie is the champion of the Disney shootout?

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What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: QE Can Get Boring
  • Damon: Taxes & CMC
  • Chester: Ready Player One/Phone Issues
  • Gary: Emergency Meds Ride-along

YouTube Subscribers:

  • Elizabeth B
  • IDontUnderstandWhyGoogleLetYourNameBeThisLong
  • Ginger Tea Time!
  • Tyler Minaj
  • Kris Andress

YouTube Comment:

  • Re: COL459: FURinTeeth – RIP – Bear Underground.net Too bad such a great site felt the need to reboot and screw it’s self out of biz.

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To play at home

Disney/Pixar Movie Bracket Challenge via Matt Herrick in honor of March Madness.

COL Final Bracket

64 Movies in 4 categories:

  • Silver & Gold Era
  • Renaissance
  • Modern
  • Pixar

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COL342: Old School Podcast Potpourri

cubsoutloudIn this episode of Cubs Out Loud, we got nothin’. Well, that’s not entirely true. We decide to have a potpourri of topics from the ridiculous to the sublime. Strap it on folks, it’s a long one.

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Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff – Looking . . . for a new job
  • Damon – I came out to my mom and all I got was a new laptop! 😉
  • Gary – It’s December, right?

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Email From Henry:

Hi, guys.  I enjoy most of your shows, but I have to admit that the Cards/Cubs Against Humanity ones leave me cold.  It’s great that y’all have so much fun with this game, but I’m just not feeling it.  Not much better than watching somebody else play Monopoly.  I have now resolved to delete future shows featuring this game, without listening to them.

 Rant over.  (Or was that a bitch?)  You asked for filthy e-mails — let’s see what’s festering in my head….

Idea for a future show: Do you know anyone who owns or has used a fucking machine?  Plug it in, make any necessary adjustments, shed your clothes, climb on & assume the position, and let modern scince drive you wild.  (At least that’s how I envision it.)  Ought to make a great podcast if you can find a user to interview.

I find myself turned on by tales — or better, videos — about male incest.  The family that fucks together comes together.  The idea of getting naked and rubbing up against one’s dad, uncles, brothers, cousins, etc. is intriguing.  

Imagine looking deeply into your father’s eyes while he pumps his cock into your ass.  Reaching up & tweaking his tits while your brother is trying to push his head between the two of you so he can get his mouth on your cock.  Reaching out your other hand to finger-fuck little brother, while his mouth is on you.  And all the time Dad’s cock is giving you the best fucking you’ve ever had.

Just thinking about it has me squirming in my computer chair.  Gotta sign off now & go finish this fantasy alone.

Cheery-bye,

Henry

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Potpourri

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Poll of the Week

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  • [Damon]: Cinema Sins: Everything Wrong with Inside Out

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COL320: HNU: Our Changing Landscape

COL298In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, it’s another hostful news update! In today’s episode, the cubs discuss bear pool parties, weight shaming, and the status of the gay bar. Listen in as the bears share their opinions. Also, shameless plugs, laundry day, and we put a new bear on the COL pedestal! Who will it be?

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Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff – Back To Frost!
  • Damon – My Gay Ass is TIRED (Pride and other stuff)
  • Gary – Veg week; returning to watching entertainment

Urbandictionary.com

gay crashing (phrase): for a heterosexual to enter an LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans) event such as a Pride parade or festival. Coined by Natasha Bedingfield in an interview about Milwaukee’s Pridefest in Summer of 2008, referring to gate crashing, but the interviewer heard “gate” as “gay,” which was equally appropriate.

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Hostful News Update!

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