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COLFB213: A Life Altering Experience

It’s the Memorial Holiday weekend here in the US. Damon and Gary are each on little vacations of their own. We’ll be back live in a week but this time around, we’re turning back the clock nine years to 2013. Funny enough, Damon was on vacation back then. But Jeff was joined by Gary and veteran co-host Eric! This week’s theme appears to be how nearly a decade later things repeat; rent increases, LGBTQ under fire politically, Orlando, drag queens, porn, and more. Remember limited cell phone plans? That’s a part of the conversation too!

Logo_ncod_lgOn this episode of Cubs Out Loud, Damon is out, but Jeff, Eric and Gary discuss what Life Altering Moments have been important to them. This and Spontaneous Trips to Orlando, and more.

What the F Did We Do This Week

Topic: Life altering moments – profound experiences that changed the course of your life, moments when you can clearly see looking back that another outcome would have resulted in a much different future/present

This Weeks Poll: What was your life altering moment?

Last Week’s Poll: Does wearing skinny jeans make you feel more gay?

Love on Craigslist – Bringing the Best of Love and Lust to You

  • [Eric] Your “Time” of the Month-Need Attention – m4w (Queens)
  • [Jeff] – BUBBLE SHEMALE FOER KAZH – t4m – 22 (MANHATTAN OUT ONLY)
  • [Gary] – Lady at the funeral – m4w – 50 Houston

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  • [Jeff] Skechers Men’s Golson Belton Slip-On

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COL638: EARN IT Act 2022

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, remember SESTA-FOSTA from 2018? Well, learn more about their newest family member EARN IT in this informative talkback. Listen in as the cubs share their opinions on the next “problem solving” legislation to combat the exploitation of those special victims. Is it really helpful or is it more harmful?

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Remember FOSTA-SESTA? Meet their newborn cousin, EARN IT Act 2022

THE 2020 PREVIOUS VERSION: 

The Amended EARN IT Act Is a Tool for Censorship.

The Supreme Court has long recognized that the Constitution forbids laws having the collateral effect of disproportionately censoring legal speech.3  By allowing states to lower the standards for liability even further than SESTA/FOSTA, the amended EARN IT Act would create just such an impermissible collateral effect and presents even graver risks to online expression than SESTA/FOSTA, especially for the LGBTQ and sex worker communities.

As we said in our previous letter, the aftermath of the passage of SESTA/FOSTA,4 which eliminated Section 230’s liability shield for content related to sex trafficking, makes the overbroad implications for online speech clear.5  Even if the speech covered by the law could be restricted without raising constitutional concern, the content moderation practices the companies will deploy to avoid liability risk will sweep far more broadly than the illegal content.6  SESTA/FOSTA was intended to protect people engaged in sex work from being trafficked against their will. It has, instead, sent them back out into the streets and made them less safe.7  Moreover, the platforms’ content moderation practices have disproportionately silenced the LGBTQ community, making it more difficult for them to come together and create community online.8 Under the amended EARN IT Act, Section 230’s shield for all state criminal and civil aws “regarding the advertising, promotion, presentation, distribution, or solicitation” of CSAM, as that term is defined by federal law, would be eliminated, permitting states to assign liability for negligence or recklessness. In other words, states would be able to go even further than SESTA/FOSTA in lowering the standards for liability for platforms.

THE 2022 CURRENT VERSION: 

Eliminating Abusive and Rampant Neglect of Interactive Technologies Act of 2022 or the EARN IT Act of 2022

This bill revises the federal framework governing the prevention of online sexual exploitation of children.

The bill establishes the National Commission on Online Child Sexual Exploitation Prevention. The commission must develop best practices for interactive computer services providers (e.g., Facebook and Twitter) to prevent, reduce, and respond to the online sexual exploitation of children.

Additionally, the bill limits the liability protections of interactive computer service providers with respect to claims alleging violations of child sexual exploitation laws.

The bill replaces various statutory references to child pornography and material that contains child pornography with child sexual abuse material.

Finally, the bill makes changes to the reporting requirements for electronic communication service providers and remote computing service providers (providers) who report apparent instances of crimes involving the sexual exploitation of children to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Among the changes, the bill requires providers to report facts and circumstances sufficient to identify and locate each minor and each involved individual. The bill also increases the amount of time that providers must preserve the contents of a report.

The EARN IT Act Threatens Free Expression

Looking to the past as prelude to the future, the only time that Congress has limited Section 230 protections was in the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act of 2017 (SESTA/FOSTA). That law purported to protect victims of sex trafficking by eliminating providers’ section 230 liability shield for “facilitating” sex trafficking by users. According to a 2021 study by the US Government Accountability Office, however, the law has been rarely used to combat sex trafficking. 9 Instead, it has forced sex workers, whether voluntarily engaging in sex work or forced into sex trafficking against their will, offline and into harm’s way.10 It has also chilled their online expression generally, including the sharing of health and safety information, and speech wholly unrelated to sex work.11 Moreover, these burdens fell most heavily on smaller platforms that either served as allies and created spaces for the LGBTQ and sex worker communities or simply could not withstand the legal risks and compliance costs of SESTA/FOSTA.12 Congress risks repeating this mistake by rushing to pass this misguided legislation, which also limits Section 230 protections.

9 Government Accountability Office. (2021). Sex Trafficking: Online Platforms and Federal prosecutions. (GAO Publication No. 21-385),   (reporting that the Department of Justice had brought just one case under FOSTA, which at the time of the Report remained in court with no restitution sought, and that only one individual had pursued civil damages, in a case that was dismissed).

10 See Online Platforms and Sex Worker Discrimination, Hacking//Hustling (last visited Feb. 3, 2022), (continuously updated document listing companies, institutions, and products “that in some way discriminate or ban sex work or adult products OR have been shut down completely following increased anti-sex work legislation”); LaLa B Holston-Zannell, PayPal and Venmo are Shutting Out Sex Workers, Putting Lives and Livelihoods at Risk, ACLU (06/23/2021),

11 See, e.g., Amanda Waltz, Sex workers in Pittsburgh discuss local impact of damaging anti-trafficking law FOSTA-SESTA, Pittsburgh City Paper (08/07/2021), (quoting a researcher at the University of Pittsburgh describing how SESTA/FOSTA has led platforms to suppress the political speech of sex workers, including online organizing efforts); Jessica Stoya, What We Can Really Learn From the OnlyFans Debacle, Slate (08/25/2021),  (describing how SESTA/FOSTA led platforms to “decimate” online sex worker spaces—“from bad-date lists that providers use to warn one another about dangerous clients to Instagram hashtags where we’d organized to fight the very law causing these problems”).

 

12 See Danielle Blunt and Ariel Wolf, Erased The Impact of FOSTA-SESTA, Hacking//Hustling (2020),; Makena Kelly, Democrats want data on how sex workers were hurt by online crackdown, The Verge (12/17/2019)

The EARN IT Act Jeopardizes the Security of Our Communications

The EARN IT Act Risks Undermining Child Abuse Prosecutions

The EARN IT Act would have devastating consequences for everyone’s ability to share and access information online, and to do so in a secure manner. We urge you to oppose this bill. Congress should instead consider more tailored approaches to deal with the real harms of CSAM online.

 

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COL490: R.I.P. Tumblr Porn

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, we are joined again by Daddy Hadrian to talk about current events in social media. Earlier last week, Tumblr decided to ban NSFW content as of December 17th and Facebook has changed its terms regarding “sexual expression”. The guys discuss how this impacts both themselves and the community at large.

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Verizon owned Tumblr has announced they’re banning NSFW content starting Dec 17th. [Oath Inc. is a subsidiary of Verizon Communications that serves as the umbrella company of its digital content subdivisions, including AOL and Yahoo!. Verizon acquired AOL on June 23, 2015 and Yahoo!’s operating business on June 13, 2017. Within Oath, AOL and Yahoo! maintain their respective brands.]

  • What do we think of this policy/content change?
  • Does anyone know the numbers? As in, what %s of user accounts/posts are NSFW vs SFW.
  • Where will the porn gravitate to on the internet?
  • Vox: Tumblr bans porn so Verizon can sell ads

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What do we think of the recent change in Facebook’s own terms re: sexual expression?

Here’s the new wording from Facebook’s Community Standards Section 15:

  1. Sexual Solicitation

Policy Rationale

As noted in Section 8 of our Community Standards (Sexual Exploitation of Adults), people use Facebook to discuss and draw attention to sexual violence and exploitation. We recognize the importance of and want to allow for this discussion. We draw the line, however, when content facilitates, encourages or coordinates sexual encounters between adults. We also restrict sexually explicit language that may lead to solicitation because some audiences within our global community may be sensitive to this type of content and it may impede the ability for people to connect with their friends and the broader community.

Do not post:

Content that attempts to coordinate or recruit for adult sexual activities including but not limited to:

  • Filmed sexual activities
  • Pornographic activities, strip club shows, live sex performances, erotic dances
  • Sexual, erotic, or tantric massages

Content that engages in explicit sexual solicitation by, including but not limited to the following, offering or asking for:

  • Sex or sexual partners
  • Sex chat or conversations
  • Nude images

Content that engages in implicit sexual solicitation, which can be identified by offering or asking to engage in a sexual act and/or acts identified by other suggestive elements such as any of the following:

  • Vague suggestive statements, such as “looking for a good time tonight”
  • Sexualized slang
  • Using sexual hints such as mentioning sexual roles, sex positions, fetish scenarios, sexual preference/sexual partner preference, state of arousal, act of sexual intercourse or activity (sexual penetration or self-pleasuring), commonly sexualized areas of the body such as the breasts, groin, or buttocks, state of hygiene of genitalia or buttocks
  • Content (hand drawn, digital, or real-world art) that may depict explicit sexual activity or suggestively posed person(s).

Content that offers or asks for other adult activities such as:

  • Commercial pornography
  • Partners who share fetish or sexual interests

Sexually explicit language that adds details and goes beyond mere naming or mentioning of:

  • A state of sexual arousal (wetness or erection)
  • An act of sexual intercourse (sexual penetration, self-pleasuring or exercising fetish scenarios)

Facebook Community Standards Section 14: Adult Nudity and Sexual Activity

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COL478: LTAS: Discreets / DL

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, it’s another Let’s Talk About Sex show! We’re joined by special guests AJ and Drew to talk about those men that play on the downlow. Listen in as the guys share their experiences with discreet and DL men.

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What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Toku Catch Up
  • Damon: Labor Day Stay-In
  • Gary: MD Labor Getaway

Show Topic

  • Discreet [urbandictionary.com definition] – A word gay/bi men use to describe themselves in a cool way that they are closet cases and have no intention of coming out soon. This allows them to maintain perceived heterosexual privilege while engaging in their true sexual desires.
  • DL [urbandictionary.com definition] – A gay male who claims to be straight but nevertheless frequents gay clubs and bathhouses to score gay sex.

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COL476: Catchup & More Part 2

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the cubs have a little catching up to do. With the recent guest hosts and other issues, the guys take the time to review our viewer feedback. From past guests love to further discussion on past topics, the cubs take in the info from our cubster fans.

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What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Battle to 120
  • Damon: Work/Meeting
  • Gary: The Next Chapter

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  • Hey Cubsters! In COL episode 438 last October we had a chat with Joshua R. Pangborn about his online video series project Skeleton Crew. Their fundraising program for Season Four ends in 7 days. Would you consider donating a couple of bucks to help support their efforts? We’re sure they’d appreciate your help. 🙂
    • Joshua R. Pangborn – Thank you Cubs Out Loud!
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  • COL458: Mr. Chicago Cub ~ John B Boss – Hey Anita Jon I just watched the whole podcast. Great interview. It should give you some more exposure as you continue as Chicago Cub. Great work. Your smile lit up the screen!
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  • Re: COL465 – No Pic, No Chat ~ Bruce Hicks: Hey guys. Love the show. I will admit that the reason I don’t post my face on a profile pic is because I am discreet (or down low as some call it). I am a single, bi-male but I have decided to stay in the closet with it (Some may call me a coward, but I am okay with that). When I do talk to guys, I will give them a face pic via inbox when they ask for one .But even then, I feel uncomfortable doing that because I’m afraid someone who is openly gay will recognize me or screen shot my face. I always try to feel the person out to see what kinda of vibe i get from them before sending my face pic. I tend to avoid those that like to gossip or expose others and aim for older bears because a lot of them are not really into drama & gossip. So, I know with me being discreet, I don’t get as many responds and I’m okay with that because from my experience, those that are openly gay have no problem hooking up with discreet guys. Any tips for us discreet guys or do you have any stories of meeting with discreet guys? Love your podcast. Hope to see you all at one of the Bear Runs this year.

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