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COL555: The Landscape of Relationships – Part 4

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys are joined once again by Edward Angelini-Cooke to discuss the landscape of relationships. In this fourth installment, Edward and the cubs break down the complicated emotion of jealousy and how it affects romantic and other relationships. Is jealousy truly a green-eyed monster or just simply misunderstood?

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The Landscape of Relationships – Jealousy

Jealousy Quotes 

“Beware….of jealousy!  It is the green-eyed monster, which doth mock/The meat it feeds on.”-Iago, Othello, William Shakespeare

“Jealousy in romance is like salt in food. A little can enhance the savor, but too much can spoil the pleasure and, under certain circumstances, can be life-threatening.” – Maya Angelou 

“Jealousy is not a barometer by which the depth of love can be read, it merely records the degree of the lover’s insecurity.” – Margaret Mead 

Cognitive Triangle 

Emotions

  • Emotions are needed for survival 

Universally accepted expressions of feelings 

Notice there are more “negative emotions” than “positive emotions”….why?

Complex Emotions 

examples : Grief, Regret, Jealousy, Envy

  • Complex emotions include various emotional states (e.g. grief is the one we are most familiar with….Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance).  Freud’s model of Jealousy includes four major components:  Grief (pain of losing a relationship), Realization (we can’t have everything we want), Enmity (towards the “winner” of affection/attention), and Anger towards ourselves that we are not good enough.
  • Complex emotions  vary based on the person, situation, and culture….therefore, we can not rely on universally accepted facial expression.

Jealousy

  • What is it?  Jealousy is a complex emotion that includes feelings of anger, sadness, fear.  Typically experienced when a person experienced a threat to a relationship.
  • DISCLAIMER:  This feeling is not only reserved for romantic relationships.  We can have feelings of jealousy in familial, work, and friend relationships.  
  • Is it normal?  Absolutely.  Evolutionary scientists have shown that animals, such as dogs, experience jealousy.  It is a necessary emotion in order to preserve social bonds.  While it may be normal, it may not be helpful.  
  • People who experience jealousy in relationships, not shockingly, report decreased relationship satisfaction.
  • Why am I feeling Jealous? Research suggests that low self-esteem, possessiveness over others, high neuroticism , fear of abandonment are predictors of jealousy.  
  • Suspicious jealous-feeling stimulated by a thought or a feeling….this is typically due to an attachment trauma, self-conscious, low self esteem.  
  • Reactive jealousy-feeling stimulated by an actual event or triggers.  (Second Life study)

 

What Do We Do?

 

  • Work on yourself first….

 

      • What is your relationship with jealousy?  Do you have a pattern of jealousy in your life?  How intense?  
      • What are you feeling (angry, sad, or afraid)?  
      • What evidence do we have?  What am I thinking about?  
      • Why am I feeling this way? Am I envious?  At whom or what?  
      • How am I experiencing this physically?  If I feel tense, can I relax? 
      • Notice that your thoughts and emotions shift and change….this isn’t going to last forever.
      • Once you do this….then we can talk to our partner.
      • Communicate with your partner your feelings.  Recognize that jealousy isn’t a bad thing.  Discuss boundaries.

 

  • If your partner is the one who is jealous….

 

    • Listen to them….completely (Mantra: Just Shut Up and Listen!)
    • Don’t respond 
    • Reflect back what you are hearing
    • Practice empathy
    • Recognize that the jealous says more about them than it does about you.  

Addressing your Jealousy 

  • Refer to The Jealousy Workbook Chapter 17 through the end 
    • Buddhism, mindfulness, meditation, attachment 
    • Eye Movement, Desensitization, and Reprocessing (EMDR) 
    • Positive affirmations
    • Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) CBT therapy that disects thoughts, feelings, and behaviors.

Compersion

  • Combination of pleasant feelings and thoughts towards your partner when they are in a positive romantic relationship with someone else.  
  • Turning jealousy into compersion….finding neutrality.  Increase empathy.  Look through their eyes.
  • Constriction to expansion.
  • Exclusion, abandonment, and deprivation to belonging, autonomy, and responsibility.  

Review:

  • Jealousy is a normal emotion, but not always helpful.
  • Listen to what jealousy is telling you as the person experiencing it or the person receiving it.  
  • Don’t avoid that you are on the ride.
  • Communicate 
  • If you feel you suffer from anxious attachment, talking to someone is helpful. 

Resources 

Books:  

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COL342: Old School Podcast Potpourri

cubsoutloudIn this episode of Cubs Out Loud, we got nothin’. Well, that’s not entirely true. We decide to have a potpourri of topics from the ridiculous to the sublime. Strap it on folks, it’s a long one.

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Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff – Looking . . . for a new job
  • Damon – I came out to my mom and all I got was a new laptop! 😉
  • Gary – It’s December, right?

Feedback:

Email From Henry:

Hi, guys.  I enjoy most of your shows, but I have to admit that the Cards/Cubs Against Humanity ones leave me cold.  It’s great that y’all have so much fun with this game, but I’m just not feeling it.  Not much better than watching somebody else play Monopoly.  I have now resolved to delete future shows featuring this game, without listening to them.

 Rant over.  (Or was that a bitch?)  You asked for filthy e-mails — let’s see what’s festering in my head….

Idea for a future show: Do you know anyone who owns or has used a fucking machine?  Plug it in, make any necessary adjustments, shed your clothes, climb on & assume the position, and let modern scince drive you wild.  (At least that’s how I envision it.)  Ought to make a great podcast if you can find a user to interview.

I find myself turned on by tales — or better, videos — about male incest.  The family that fucks together comes together.  The idea of getting naked and rubbing up against one’s dad, uncles, brothers, cousins, etc. is intriguing.  

Imagine looking deeply into your father’s eyes while he pumps his cock into your ass.  Reaching up & tweaking his tits while your brother is trying to push his head between the two of you so he can get his mouth on your cock.  Reaching out your other hand to finger-fuck little brother, while his mouth is on you.  And all the time Dad’s cock is giving you the best fucking you’ve ever had.

Just thinking about it has me squirming in my computer chair.  Gotta sign off now & go finish this fantasy alone.

Cheery-bye,

Henry

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Potpourri

Cooldown Topics

Poll of the Week

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Links:

  • [Damon]: Cinema Sins: Everything Wrong with Inside Out

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COLDR: S7E5: There’s Always Time for a Cocktail!

COLDRS7-Ep5In this episode of Cubs Out Loud Drag Race, Damon and Gary talk about the fifth episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 7! In tonight’s episode, Mama Ru lights a fire under the queens asses as they present in the Despy Awards. Meanwhile, the cubs dish on the joys of the cutthroat Kathy Griffin, the display of the realness of getting realer, and having a cocktail with Mrs. Kasha Davis. Also, who else is over “I’m over it”??

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Weekly Topic

Episode 5 of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 7

First Impressions:

  • [Gary] – What’s the theme? Oh that’s right… “Realness Just Got Realer”. It starts with the lead-in from Mrs. Kasha Davis.
  • [Damon] – Why are you on this show?!?

Thoughts on This Episode:

  • [Gary] – Strange Filler Separation Episode
  • [Damon] – A Fun Idea that could have been better. MORE GAY!!

Thoughts on Untucked:

  • [Gary] – The fat guhrl cries
  • [Damon] – Some emotions finally!

Cooldown Topics:

Take Aways:

  • [Gary] – She’s Mama Ru for a reason
  • [Damon] – She Got it Wrong…AGAIN!?!

Snaps / Eyerolls [Hits/Misses]:

  • [Gary] – Snaps for… Kathy Griffin Coaching and Ru-Mentoring ‘Twisting your tits here’ – ‘Light a fire under your ass’ – ‘That’s why I brought your ass here’ – ‘I never want to see any of my girls, not live up to their potential’ – ‘I will see you all later’
  • [Gary] – Eyerolls for… Violet, your wig’s hairline done busted. AND FAME! Stop clucking and FIX YOUR G.D. TAPE! Why are the judges NOT commenting on it?!?!
  • [Damon] – Snaps for… Kasha & Katya’s Frock Paper Scissors challenge win
  • [Damon] – Eyerolls for … Miss Fame missed the joke and it’s on HER!!

Closing Thoughts:

  • [Gary] – Mrs. Kasha Davis has legs I love! And, she delivers the perfect philosophy
  • [Damon] – “I’m over it…” These young queens…

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