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COL555: The Landscape of Relationships – Part 4

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys are joined once again by Edward Angelini-Cooke to discuss the landscape of relationships. In this fourth installment, Edward and the cubs break down the complicated emotion of jealousy and how it affects romantic and other relationships. Is jealousy truly a green-eyed monster or just simply misunderstood?

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The Landscape of Relationships – Jealousy

Jealousy Quotes 

“Beware….of jealousy!  It is the green-eyed monster, which doth mock/The meat it feeds on.”-Iago, Othello, William Shakespeare

“Jealousy in romance is like salt in food. A little can enhance the savor, but too much can spoil the pleasure and, under certain circumstances, can be life-threatening.” – Maya Angelou 

“Jealousy is not a barometer by which the depth of love can be read, it merely records the degree of the lover’s insecurity.” – Margaret Mead 

Cognitive Triangle 

Emotions

  • Emotions are needed for survival 

Universally accepted expressions of feelings 

Notice there are more “negative emotions” than “positive emotions”….why?

Complex Emotions 

examples : Grief, Regret, Jealousy, Envy

  • Complex emotions include various emotional states (e.g. grief is the one we are most familiar with….Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance).  Freud’s model of Jealousy includes four major components:  Grief (pain of losing a relationship), Realization (we can’t have everything we want), Enmity (towards the “winner” of affection/attention), and Anger towards ourselves that we are not good enough.
  • Complex emotions  vary based on the person, situation, and culture….therefore, we can not rely on universally accepted facial expression.

Jealousy

  • What is it?  Jealousy is a complex emotion that includes feelings of anger, sadness, fear.  Typically experienced when a person experienced a threat to a relationship.
  • DISCLAIMER:  This feeling is not only reserved for romantic relationships.  We can have feelings of jealousy in familial, work, and friend relationships.  
  • Is it normal?  Absolutely.  Evolutionary scientists have shown that animals, such as dogs, experience jealousy.  It is a necessary emotion in order to preserve social bonds.  While it may be normal, it may not be helpful.  
  • People who experience jealousy in relationships, not shockingly, report decreased relationship satisfaction.
  • Why am I feeling Jealous? Research suggests that low self-esteem, possessiveness over others, high neuroticism , fear of abandonment are predictors of jealousy.  
  • Suspicious jealous-feeling stimulated by a thought or a feeling….this is typically due to an attachment trauma, self-conscious, low self esteem.  
  • Reactive jealousy-feeling stimulated by an actual event or triggers.  (Second Life study)

 

What Do We Do?

 

  • Work on yourself first….

 

      • What is your relationship with jealousy?  Do you have a pattern of jealousy in your life?  How intense?  
      • What are you feeling (angry, sad, or afraid)?  
      • What evidence do we have?  What am I thinking about?  
      • Why am I feeling this way? Am I envious?  At whom or what?  
      • How am I experiencing this physically?  If I feel tense, can I relax? 
      • Notice that your thoughts and emotions shift and change….this isn’t going to last forever.
      • Once you do this….then we can talk to our partner.
      • Communicate with your partner your feelings.  Recognize that jealousy isn’t a bad thing.  Discuss boundaries.

 

  • If your partner is the one who is jealous….

 

    • Listen to them….completely (Mantra: Just Shut Up and Listen!)
    • Don’t respond 
    • Reflect back what you are hearing
    • Practice empathy
    • Recognize that the jealous says more about them than it does about you.  

Addressing your Jealousy 

  • Refer to The Jealousy Workbook Chapter 17 through the end 
    • Buddhism, mindfulness, meditation, attachment 
    • Eye Movement, Desensitization, and Reprocessing (EMDR) 
    • Positive affirmations
    • Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) CBT therapy that disects thoughts, feelings, and behaviors.

Compersion

  • Combination of pleasant feelings and thoughts towards your partner when they are in a positive romantic relationship with someone else.  
  • Turning jealousy into compersion….finding neutrality.  Increase empathy.  Look through their eyes.
  • Constriction to expansion.
  • Exclusion, abandonment, and deprivation to belonging, autonomy, and responsibility.  

Review:

  • Jealousy is a normal emotion, but not always helpful.
  • Listen to what jealousy is telling you as the person experiencing it or the person receiving it.  
  • Don’t avoid that you are on the ride.
  • Communicate 
  • If you feel you suffer from anxious attachment, talking to someone is helpful. 

Resources 

Books:  

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COLDR: S12E08-09: Droop & Choices 2020

In this episode of COL Drag Race ‘T-Time’, Damon and Gary are back to discuss the most recent episodes of RuPaul’s Drag Race. In Episode 8, the gurls do some reading and then sell their fantasy wares before strutting down the aisle in their black wedding accoutrements. In Episode 9, the kitties get political in a litter throwing smack down debate before hitting the runway in their patriotic stars & stripes. Which queens made the right choices to stay and which ones get de-clawed?

WEEKLY TOPIC

RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 12

  • 12 Seasons – 153 Queens

Put the Pedal to the Metal:

Mini Challenge – Bosom Buddy Bitches, Maxi Challenge – Droop

  • [Damon] – Reading is Fundamentally Sponsored?/Brand Yourself Well
  • [Gary] – So the Library Does Brunch??/Infomercial Realness 

Mini Challenge – Pretty Litter Kitty, Maxi Challenge – Choices 2020

  • [Damon] – Fun Kitties/Listen to the Experience
  • [Gary] – One Purrrfect Choice/Best Debate to Date?

Stomp the Runway:

Category is. . . Black Wedding

  • [Damon] – Stunning Choices
  • [Gary] – Gigi’s Perfection vs Crystal’s Art

Category is. . . Stars and Stripes

  • [Damon] – Patriotic Much??
  • [Gary] – Literal vs Interpretive

Lip Sync for Your Life:

Bottom Two – Jan and Widow Von’Du

“This Is My Night” by Chaka Khan

  • [Damon] – Easy Win
  • [Gary] – Frenetic vs Deep in Your Soul

Shantay Widow stays, while Jan sashes away 

Bottom Two – Jackie Cox and Widow Von’Du

“Firework” by Katy Perry

  • [Damon] – Surprised and Gagged
  • [Gary] – Double Save Wasted?

Shantay Jackie stays, while Widow sashes away

Snaps & Eyerolls:

  • [Damon] – Snaps for… Jan/Widow Untucked
  • [Gary] – Snaps for… Heidi Taking Notes and Winning
  • [Damon] – Eyerolls for…Widow’s Commercial
  • [Gary] – Eyerolls for… BOB ‘FUCKING HORRIBLE SPECIAL PRODUCER’ HARPER
  • [Damon] – Snaps for… the Michelle Cutaways/Crystal Purrrfect 
  • [Gary] – Snaps for… To Everyone But Gigi
  • [Damon] – Eyerolls for… Gigi and Politics/Widow Defeated
  • [Gary] – Eyerolls for… The Judges Panel
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COL294: F***, F$%^, F*&$ity, F$#%: The Best of 2014!

COL294On this episode of Cubs Out Loud, with the new year dawning, the cubs reminisce on the year of 2014. We discuss what we liked as the best episodes, our favorites of COL, and also the highlights of our year. Laugh along with us as we reprise our favorite moments from the year.

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What’s Going On?

  • [Jeff] – Christmas and lack of work
  • [Damon] – Compliments from Strangers and NYE Plans
  • [Gary] – NY Vaca

Feedback:

BU Comments for 293:

  • Johnny Sin

Gabe is the bald bearded one right?  So fuckin sexy

  • CypanArc

Eye glasses with beard. Perfect

FB Likes:

  • Bruiser Wolf Sussex
  • Keith Goshagar
  • Loren Pup Atlas Leonard
  • Matthew Temple
  • Tony Emling

Weekly Topic

Best of 2014 – recap episode: Cover all the usual categories, add a few fun others like best run, best trick, best thing to happen to you in 2014, etc.

COL Moments:

Favorite COL Topic of 2014:

  • [Jeff] – COL275: Power Hour 2 – Jeff’s Birthday Bash

Favorite Link/Pick/Tumblr of 2014:

  • [Gary] – COL244, Jan 12’14 [first episode of the new year] onfire40 comment: to our pick of him for Tumblr. “Cubs Out Loud. Very touched and flattered you guys thought I was hot. My name is Marc and I live in Montreal, Qc. That’s right. French Canadian bear! Lol. You guys totally rock. Gonna make a special pic just for you guys! Cheers boys! Xxxx” which resulted in the infamous underwear with our name on it pic.

Most Downloaded Episode of COL 2014:

Best Thing to Happen to You in 2014:

  • [Jeff] – My Raid Team
  • [Damon] – House Plans
  • [Gary] – Weddings: H/T, R/V

Best Trick:

  • [Jeff] – Mike
  • [Damon] – LA via Portland
  • [Gary] – Indy

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