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COL442: ATNS: Feedback

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, it’s time for another cup of tea as the guys present an All T, No Shade show. This time around, the cubs read and respond to your feedback on some of our most recent episodes. Also, some Thanksgiving leftover conversations and the guys thirsting on some pics.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Marriage & Adoption in Stardew and lazy grocery shopping
  • Damon: I’m Back! ATL and Thanksgiving.
  • Chester: Banned, Birthday, Visitors, Escape Room
  • Gary: Recovery Mode Engaged

Feedback:

Facebook Likes:

  • Mark Wolf
  • Nick DeCoopman
  • Drew Littlefield
  • Bob Green
  • Boy Quinton
  • Lovel Trahan (Pugsley’s BF)
  • Princess Baron
  • Milady Lyn
  • Tom Wray
  • Donnie Royse
  • Morgan J McChurch

YouTube Subscribers:

  • Zak Jackson
  • Brian McGee

Blog Comment:

  • Re: COL430: TTO: Labor Gay: @twatTUBBS’ comment: “just catching up on this show after I been doing alot of travelin, Im the “cigar at work” guy and it made my day that you liked my post. I watch your show all the time guys, love it and thanks for the shout out. O and to the points broght up about the pics, I am faily built but I am a foodie, it was a great cigar yes.  (Alec Bradley) and its not sweat it was oil, those are clips from a vid I made on youtube, let me know if you want the link. TUBBS”
  • Re: COL437: Old School Bears Online: tnliving’s comment: “Having a different view in some part of one’s personal life shouldn’t disqualify them from being a valued member of a community.  Just like we don’t want to be excluded or discriminated from normal civic life because we are gay, we also shouldn’t exclude others based on their political views in general. As with most issues there are plenty of grey areas but being a Donald Trump supporter is not comparable to maybe being a founder of a gay reformation group.  Being an active participant in the Westboro Baptist church should probably preclude somebody from  being taken seriously leading a gay social group.  Being a Republican (even a Trump Republican) certainly should not in my opinion.”

Tumblr Followers:

Tumblr Comment:

  • Mapleleafcub: Thank you so much for the bear of the day
  • wingmandbq to foxbear: Not An Ask but a thanks
    • Not an ask but a thanks … It was great to hear you on the latest episode of Cubs Out Loud!! I kinda fan boyed a bit and may have even did a bit of a squeeeee!!!! too!! Thanks for being involved, it was great to hear you share your knowledge, experience and perspective.
    • Sure, bub!  I’m a semi-regular guest host with the boys from @cubsoutloud, and have probably been on eight or ten episodes–including at least three video episodes that are available on their YouTube channel.  You can probably find them all using the tag cloud over on the COL website.

W Bear – Chester:

  • Rootbeer Pup and Grizzly: You guys are awesome, I love your shows. Keep up the good work. I love listening to you guys when I can.
  • (We then got into a discussion about cigars from COL436: Smokin’ in the Bears Den

W Bear – Gary:

  • Cody says “Hey I love your pictures handsome and I relly like your podcast it got me through my weekend cleaning job and now my commute 😉
    • Yay! Thanks for letting us know. We’re glad it helped you pass the time. 🙂

Show Topic

ATNS: Feedback

  • Re: COL440: The Klondykes: From [Redacted]: This is NOT a comment of hate, this is a comment of reality……I 1st saw pics of this “contest” on the old (better) Bear Underground site. They were posted by the winner of the “Glitter Bear” title, ya know, the guy who is dolphin smooth and not bear like in any way.. After looking at these very disturbing pictures I simply asked- What do the red\pink stripes stand for then? Of course he replied that he didn’t know and that they were just shades of red and pink. So one can only figure the color stripes stand for the “Klondikes” heavy to lite flow days. The True Bear Community has been being tainted for years and years. This is the straw that breaks the community and welcomes camel toe. Bear means hair, with that in mind I wonder, do these so-called lesbian bears not shave and grow huge bushes?? This entire Bear’s Welcome Everybody thing has gone way too far. There is a line, and the Klondikes are it. Sad to see so many forget their roots.
  • In show response regarding the colors in the logo: Per our guest Courtney Chesser: “I’m so glad someone asked! The logo was made by local Aly shine. It is a mixture of the bear pride flag and femme flag on our behalf. The pinks are the bear pride “skin” colors translated into shades of pink. Pink is traditionally displayed in the femme pride flag so it’s accepting of all ranges of skin as well as ranges of femininity.”
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COL420: State of the Community ’17

In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, in honor of Pride Month, the cubs come together again to discuss the state of the community. From the Stonewall riots to the Pulse shooting, LGBT+ life has been strongly affected by the month of June. This time around, the guys talk about the past, the present, and the potential future of the community given recent incidents. Has Pride truly gone political or is this just the start of the next generation?

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: It’s a whole new raid and computer frustrations
  • Damon: Cincinnati Pride
  • Gary: Pride Recognition

Feedback:

Voicemail: Blank didn’t get the job

Weekly Topic

Discussion of where the LGBTQIA community stands today compared to one year ago [episode COL371].

Side note: Michael Jackson died on this date [of recording] in 2009, eight year ago today at age 50.

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COL389: The Shit Show That is Life

col389In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, you know what happens when you think you have something going on and then plans fall through? Well, this episode is just that! Listen in as the guys literally throw a show together at the last minute. It should be a hell of a show. Find out what we do when have nothing to do.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: 5/24
  • Damon: Job News..
  • Chester: New toys!
  • Gary: Party!

Feedback:

Facebook Likes:

  • Paul Webster

 

YouTube Subscribers:

  • MrGameking605
  • ArcaneNH

Bear Underground:

  • NurseCub225: Thanks for the compliment. I have been enjoying the podcasts!
  • Troy007s: RE:388 “Thank you. This is great you guys have like a gay guy version of those morning talk shows where the ladies all sit at the table and talk about things. Wonder if there is time for you guys to have celebrity guests on the show.”

Twitter – Posts:

 

  • Charles S. (@GBearTrekker65): Sent you guys some “gifts” via Tumblr message. Your show topic turned me on.

Twitter Followers:

  • CGGearMon
  • BradDodson8

Tumblr:

  • CGGearMon
  • Gaymercub89
  • CubbyJonny
  • Blackcubb

Chasabl:

  • PilotTubbs: “listened to it for a while, I never knew it was on youtube.  I love it, keep up the great work.”

Weekly Topic

The Shit Show That is Life

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COL388: Entourage Feedback

col388In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, the guys take some time to look at some of your feedback! That’s right! Thanks to the listeners, the cubs are able to dedicate a whole episode to what you all wish to say to them.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: 3 Down, 21 to go
  • Damon: OT/Interview
  • Chester: End of roadtrip, soulsearching
  • Gary: Changing Seasons

Feedback:

Facebook Likes:

  • Jeffrey Boan

 

YouTube Subscribers:

  • BEAR Bigass

 

Bear Underground:

  • AVidahl: Grrr!

Twitter:

  • Mark L
  • Chris Bulk

Tumblr:

  • Friedballoonobject
  • Theangrybeaver11
  • Redpanda007
  • Cubziz
  • Noctis69
  • Bearhuggercub
  • Eduard9486

Weekly Topic

It’s a COL Entourage feedback show!

From BearUnderground.net

Troy007s
Pvt msg to Chester:
Cubs out loud is back. Great. Same cast or some new members? (I replied)
Followed by:
Welcome to the group! How did you come to get involved? There wasn’t much talk of the show lately on this site but enjoyed listening to all the guys get together and talk about things. Does the group ever meet in person for events?

chubnerdchaser

Posted 1 month ago re: COL380 Power Hour 4

This one was definitely worth the watch on YouTube. The shirtless eye candy wasn’t available on my podcast audio. ;P

chubnerdchaser

Posted 2 months ago re: COL374: Bear Origins

Highly recommend listening to at least 374 if you’re not a regular listener. It’s really good. I laughed, I cried, I got a semi. Thanks for recording it!

chubnerdchaser

Posted 3 months ago COL372: LTAS: The DL Deal

Really loved this episode! As someone who is one of the (mostly) D/L guys, it was good to hear more from the other side of the coin. Also really glad you touched on the type of D/L guys who aren’t “out” about being into chubs or bears, even if they’re otherwise out as gay. It’s one of my pet peeves!

Keep up the great work!

chubnerdchaser

Posted 4 months ago re: COL367 Bear Issues….?

Loved this episode – thanks!

Email from Tony B.

Hi guys,

Gary recently told me online that I was mentioned in the latest episode. I admit I hadn’t listened since his adventures at Claw, simply haven’t had time. I did subscribe to the Youtube channel, but didn’t get any further.

But the latest episode appears to not be working, so I listened to 383 and wanted to chime in.

Young Bears:

Here in St. Louis, myself and another bear, started a new type of bear club back in 2002. “The Bears of St. Louis” or BOSL for short. The main local bear club (Show Me Bears) is based out of a bar and I’d

wager 99% of its events are held at the bar. So we started our club with the intent of NOT being bar based. This was two-fold. First, there was no overlap with the existing club, so we wouldn’t “steal members”, but second, it could grab a new audience.

And it did.

We had a *LOT* of college-aged involvement which is rare of standard bear clubs.

Their participation was because a lot of school-based LGBT clubs are geared more towards visibility and (at the time) equal rights and not so much for individuals tastes. So as people interested in bears, they didn’t feel at home there. They weren’t ignored, but the posters didn’t have muscle bears or hairy men, they were gay icons and “pretty boys”, not the gruff kind of men they found interest in.

BUT… we also had one 16 year old attend a potluck of ours, WITH his father. Sadly he didn’t come back. Not because of anything wrong, per se. Basically his father was a bear, just a straight one, and so everyone chatted with him. The young guy felt distanced because not only was his father getting all the attention (worst thing that could happen for a youth) but he wasn’t getting anyone hitting on him, and he was frustrated. I explained that part of it was because his father hit a lot of people’s interests and that he was still “dangerous” being still too young for most guys to associate with too much. The father loved the fact that his expectations were wrong. He assumed we’d be stereotypical gays and instead found himself standing around a BBQ pit with a beer in hand talking about sports… with a couple who had been together for 10+ years. So I’m certain we helped him adjust a little better in regards to his son. 🙂

But with most consent laws being 17 or 18 (depending on state), I can see where the 18 year old is the line, but for the most part, every run I’ve been to has enforced a 21-year or older requirement on their applications. And while it sucks, a lot of times it is because of the venues that the events are hosted at. (Bars, hotels, van/buses, etc.)

There is a need for groups like this. Sadly our group fell apart as it wasn’t designed to be anything more than a social group, so there was no real power structure in place and by 2004, it was gone. Was an amazing two years though. 🙂

One thing I’ll mention that our group also had in participation… Recovering alcoholics.

I never anticipated that, but by not doing events at the bar and providing non-bar based activities, we had a lot of participation from people who had to avoid alcohol.

Another group it attracted and I half-expected this… Couples.

Couples don’t tend to hit the bars a lot as the constant barrage of flirting, drunken gropes, etc, can be a bit much. But for a non-sexualized bear club, there was a lot of couples interested in coming to events.

So there is a market for non-bar based clubs. I know that’s a diversion off the 18-21 year old topic, but I wanted to mention some other groups that get overlooked by the current organizations out there.

Bisexuality:

I like the phrase “Bi-Now, Gay-Later”, very cute.

So, I dated a Bisexual Poly man, in a gay monogamous relationship (which became a triad) and it ended roughly a year after we started. He is currently married to a woman. I get asked how I feel about that and my comment is always “The only thing I’m upset about is that I didn’t get a damned invite to the wedding!”

Sexuality is fluid. I know a bisexual man who loves skinny women with huge boobs and big men (presumeably with moobs). I found it fascinating to hear him describe it all. But it is who he is.

I myself identify as gay, but I have seen women who I’d have sex with… Probably just morbid curiosity, but I could. I think. Maybe. *shrug* No real interest in finding out though. (And don’t tell my mother, or it’ll rekindle her questions about when I’m going to have kids. Oi.)

Onto the topic of Leather/BDSM play spaces and Sex/Gender issues:

One thing to point out is that there’s an interesting duality here. Play spaces mean different things to different segments of the Leather/BDSM world.

For the pan-sexual world, sex is one aspect of play, but it isn’t an identifier. The BDSM acts are.

For the gay world, sex *IS* our defining trait. We are gay because we want man-on-man action. Thus it is a focus.

And to me, THAT is where the separation comes in. Pansexual BDSM is about the BDSM, not sex. Gay BDSM is about fetishized sex. Not solely and they both cross paths, but the “what gets people hot” is different.

50 Shades of Grey makes gay leathermen giggle with how “quaint” it is. But for women, it’s amazing. By the same token, women who watch gay BDSM videos, they want the raw animal nature of it, the power exchange, the testosterone dripping during the scene…

Can a crossover happen at an event? That gets complicated, especially when it comes to the law. Because straight sex can create children… how would an event handle that? But I’m sure it could happen (and probably does, just not publically known.)

As such, most of the pansexual events I’ve seen are BDSM only, sex back in your room. While most gay events are BDSM mainly, but sex might happen, so be prepared.

Keep in mind, this is no different than bars. How many straight bars have a “back room”? Yet that was a mainstay in the gay bar scene for decades (and still exists in some areas).

Forced bisexuality in BDSM:

I disagree with the topic brought up that a straight couple, the man might force the woman to have sex with another woman…

There is ALWAYS a choice in BDSM. Even slaves CAN say no. (They might not like the consequences, but they can.)

And remember, pansexual BDSM is rarely about sex and more about the BDSM itself. So yes, a Dom male may force a sub female to “assist” with another sub female, but rarely would he force them into sex (unless that was negotiated as a possibility, etc.) and frankly, most Dom males would much prefer something more along the lines of binding one while having sex with the other and forcing the other to watch, much as many Dom males with two male subs would… The BDSM aspect is the same either way.

The problem we see is that as gay men, we don’t distinguish sex from BDSM. And so we assume a BDSM act between one man and two women would be sexual, but it may not be. Just as we would see three men together and if the only activity that happened was bondage, we’d go “really? Just being tied up? No sex? Damn. What a waste.”

While the acts of BDSM are the same either way, one is more of sensuality and heightening arousal (pansexual) while the other (gay) is much more focused on the complete action from start to finish.

And again, is that fixed? Not at all. I’ve seen pansexual scenes that were to completion and I’ve been in gay scenes that involved no sex. But we tend to drift to categorize based on what we like… and we have to watch out for that assumption.

Just my thoughts.

Great episode and look forward to the next one. (Soooooo nervous about how I got brought up. Hehe…)

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COL387: TTO: Beards, Bellies, Butts

col387In this episode of Cubs Out Loud, it’s another This, That or Other! For this go around, we focus on some of the best parts of a bear: the beard, the belly, and the butt. Check out our Tumblr picks and feast on the smorgasbord of delicious beary goodness.

Introduction Topics

What’s Going On?

  • Jeff: Fuckin’ Allergies and Re WoTing.
  • Damon: Mr. Cincinnati Leather
  • Chester: Roadtrip!
  • Gary: Friends Visited Me!

Feedback:

Facebook Likes:

  • Greg Bretz

YouTube Subscribers:

  • Chris Gardner
  • woofy

Twitter:

Tumblr:

  • Futuremystic
  • Bububorg
  • Codiak723
  • Mitch8521
  • Laloyrick
  • Bearturnedzombie
  • Bearinky

Weekly Topic

TTO: Beards, Bellies, Butts

BEARDS

BELLIES

BUTTS

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