Cubs Out Loud

I was actually shocked to hear the comments made about me in the podcast. My jaw hit the floor. I know Griff is known for being upfront and in your face but that was a bit too much (even for me). I was offended that I would be talked about in such a casual manner.

I really like the podcast and it makes me sad that I heard something that makes me not want to comment any more for fear that I hear some other comment made about me. I don't know how you meant it (joking or serious) but either way, it was disrespectful.

I was of course joking around. I'd never say anything to intentionally offend you. I'm going to comment on the 1/3 show however I wanted to let you know I was completely joking wth the reference.

I was listening to the podcast on the train today (Christmas Eve). My dad died suddenly eight weeks ago and Nakia's song made me cry. Probably a good thing, but not a song I want to listen to again for a very long time! That said, I like his music and will surely look for some of his other songs.

As for shitty Christmas songs, I can;t believe that on one mentioned the kid buying shoes for his dead mother song. Every time I hear it I want to point my car into the nearest wall. "Mary did you know " is another particularly annoying song,

Greetings Gentlemen of Cubs Out Loud. I'm J, the husband of Renee, who has, over the past 3 months or so leaving very good feedback and asking questions to help bring content, questions and seeking understanding of the culture of the Bear and TBGL Community. We have been listening to your show since May or June supporting our friend Jeff, as we may know him Wyndgem.

I write to you because I'm rather shocked at the lack of respect display on the show towards feedback that Renee left. I've had a good 24 hours to sit back and think why in the world I was so angry with Griff and Jeff. Well what it boils down to is the lack of respect Griff showed towards Renee. I totally understand that me writing this will probably spark more disrespect as displayed in the last episode. I feel that I should write this and let you know where I stand. I am not the type of person to tell any one's partner or significant other to do anything sexual to me no matter how funny it may be that's disrespectful and taboo. I think what hit me the most was the fact that Renee has been quite frequent if not the only feedback that you have received on the show even at one point the offer to come on to the show for discussion and yet Griff, out of his mouth, ask my spouse, wife, significant other for a sexual favor? I would have been angry if this was Renee's first time but not as angry or even if it was someone else's partner that Griff that did that. What hurt the most is that I considered Jeff a friend...and all he could say was "There goes my Guildie of the Week.". I'm a passionate friend and I will defend my friends to the end of the earth. I recall calling out a member of our raid group for jokingly saying something about gay people, I told him that wasn't cool and we have friends and I actually have a nephew that is gay. I have talked to Jeff about this and I was going to have him start listening to the show so he wouldn't feel awkward in the small town that he lives in, but after the display of disrespect showed I don't feel like I can do that. It hurts me that Jeff didn't have the respect to even give myself or Renee a heads up of what happened, but we had to find out by listening to the show after it was released. So I guess, Jeff, if someone calls me a n*gger you'll just not even stand up for me. I know if someone would call you a degrading name or disrespectful name I would and still would stand up for you. Way to go and be a friend. Bravo!

Is this acceptable behavior amongst the Bear community? I'll admit the anger that propped up brought back feelings of being molested by a male family member when I was a child, someone I trusted took advantage of that and didn't bother to try and protect me and my wife. So no Griff you cannot have your threesome with myself or my wife. You can go forth and disrespect some other happy couple.

Sorry to hear you were offended. Was Renee?

Given the holiday I won't be back on until 1/3. I'll be sure to include your feedback and a more proper reply than I can type in my iPhone.

I do hope Renee and you have a great holiday!

Yes she was offended and she will reply later on when return home.

I'm suprised you guys didn't mention "A Christmas Story" as one of the best all time modern Christmas Movies out there http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/

We did not, but I did mention it as one of the worst.